Slopenose 911 Purchase questions,

i miss my 911, and i have always loved the way the slopenose cars look. i am not sure if i am going to get a 930 turbo, or just look for a turbo look car. i seem to remember the headlights are a issue with the slopenose cars, as far as not working properly, and fitment issues.

anyone here care to chime in with things to look out for?

i may just buy a 930, and not worry about finding a slopenose or not, i am still on the fence so any 930 turbo pre purchase advice would be nice.

seems turbo look cars are rare? are they more expensive than a regular 3.2 Carrera?

my 308 has two people looking at it now, so it may be gone soon.

thanks for any help.

Michael

 

I recently bought a 930 Turbo SE non-slope nose. Personally I think the classic shape is iconic. Others would only have a slope nose.

Lots to look for on these cars - all the usual care on history etc. Good thing is that Porsche seems much easier to repair than Ferrari

 

Find yourself an original factory flatnose/slantnose/slopenose turbo in convertible of course. One of the best looking porsches. Must have the pop up headlights not the one with the lights in the bumper (but that would be a second choice), must be black with a tan or cream interior, must have the side vents and the front airdam spoiler but that's just my opinion.

 

Pelican Parts and Rennlist both have good 930 forums. Make sure the 930 has the m505 option for slant nose. There are many conversions out there because it was a $30k option when new I think. The headlight issue I have never heard of. Maybe it was on the conversions. There are many owners that don't realize that they don't have a factory slant. On quick reference to spot is the jackplate holes in the boxed rockers on the factory versions. Many conversions don't have the hole and plug in the rocker.

 

A properly taken-care of factory slantnose has no real issues with the headlights popping up / going down.

As always, PPI is golden.

 

Just know how to tell a clone from the real thing. Other than that, it's just a 930........

And, IMHO there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying a "correctly done" steel bodied clone either.........just don't overpay for it. The key words here are "correctly done", and FWIW, very few are. Stay away from fiberglass cars as a rule, except for the Kremer or DP stuff.

PM me if you have any questions. I have owned several and know them well. A quick list of must have things are as follows (some already mentioned)......

-Steel fenders
-Fender slots on top of the front fenders are the correct pattern, size and length (common mistake) and are also covered underneath.
-Jack hole and corresponding support bar (this bar is often missing on clones) underneath the rocker panels
-Real cars have a single 944 series headlight motor in the center of the front trunk and two rods that operate the pop up lights. They also have an impossible to find today fiberglass cover for this item
-M505 code on underhood sticker
-Oil cooler in rear fender @ passenger side with correct factory plumbing underneath
-Rear fender vents are functional as opposed to being covered behind the vents
-The strakes in these vents are made of wood, not plastic, or anything else
-Correct position of rear quarter panel vents. Many fakes have them upside down, crooked, or too high.
-Standard 930 front spoiler with rubber lip (no cars left Werk 1 or PAG with anything else and the M505 code, some early cars did, but this was before M505 which was used from 1986-1989 only)
-The 930 slantnose had a different steering wheel available as an option, as well as a different center console

Price wise, a really good, well done "correct" clone IMHO is worth as much as a good original 930 non-slant +/-10% more.

A real low mileage original no stories 930 slant in a unique color (such as the 1988 orange metallic 20K mile car owned by a Rennlister that sold last year) is worth twice as much as a regular 930.

 

thanks!

 

I prefer the terms flantnose, flopenose or slatnose.

 

If you really miss the aircooled 911 experience and want more oooommmph, I'd be happy to work out some sort of deal for your GTB. My 1988 cab has a 300 hp 993 Euro Varioram motor (I think that the Turbos had 282 hp ). Plus it has Tubo sport seats! (pretty rare in blue). The car is very fast, but well balanced, completely sorted and as reliable as a hammer.

 

thanks! but i had two different people come and look at the 308 this weekend, and i need to give them time to PPI it and buy it, or not.

i have had 3 911's, and miss having one i can drive all the time.

i think a 930 would be different, fun , and way cheaper than trying to find a nice bb512.

 

How do you feel about "flachbau?"

 

Ja, es gut.

 

This is the original factory Flachbau from 1981. Rare as such. I believe this factory car is undervalued. My guess, is a lot of enthusiasts, do not even know these cars were different. Very low production #'s, first year of introduction of flachbau, and a top of the line special Porsche = good combination.

Michael

The 930 can do everything the Boxer does and even more. A euro 930 is good for 160mph+
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Just do your homework and make sure you know what you're buying. There are a LOT of aftermarket slantnose cars out there being passed off as the real deal.

 

Beautiful car!!!

 

just had to chime in here, 930's are just GREAT cars. They are just exotic enough looking to really keep you satisfied, but it is the effortless ease at which they 'slingshot' you around that makes them the icon they are, and bulletproof in build and engineering! Thats two thumbs up for 930's...and slants are ultra-cool!!!

 

Wow, that is VERY early Sonderwunsche. The front-end is the most obvious departure from the later cars with the 928 style driving lights in the airdam and smooth fenders without the vents. The 2nd iteration had dual round driving lights similar to the 935, and then they finally switched to the pop-up units for the latest cars. The rear 1/4 panels only have 2 cheese graters, whereas the later cars had 3. The wing is bizarre. It's a non-intercooled decklid with re-inforcements over the grille, but with the tea-tray style rubber perimeter instead of the typical whale-tale piece. A special car indeed. If you have any more pictures, I'd love to see them.

 

thanks, we had a bad storm here so i have been offline for over a day. i too would love some pics, i looked in the " 930" pics threads, but i cannot yet tell the difference between the cars without some text description. i never knew there was such a difference and that there are variations.

Michael

 

That is the only pic I have, of that car.

Check out Page 4. The car is located in the UK. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217774&page=4



More important, are any 1981 M506 RoW cars for sale ?

 

My friends father was looking at selling his. I cant remember the year and im not really to much of a porsche guy so im not really sure the year range it would fall under. I do know that it is a black turbo with bbs wheels and definitely a slantnose. Ill talk to my friend and post back with more accurate info.

 

the 'ruf' slantnose cars are pretty badass!

find a 'real' one, from WEST GERMANY, lol.....

 

Anyone here remember B+B ?

They did slantnose conversions in Germany during the early 80's and had quite a write up in an early R+T issue. Can't find any pics online though. Here's a few from the Porsche Werk 1 shops from the 80's........
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amazing pics.

 

Iremember them. A number of their cars came with the IMSA style "fan" wheels with the b+b on the wheels. Lower case if I remember correctly. Nice looking cars and I'm assuming well put together as well.

If I remember correctly an article from R&T, the slope nose was good for an extra 20% increase in downforce on the front and it reduced drag by a bit.

Also most of the non factory slope cars used Mazda RX7 pop-up lamps. They were readily available at the time and worked. But, because of the electric motor you'll often see some "hammer-work" done to the body on the driver’s side to make them fit. I had taken a look at an 83 grey market slope that had been converted using DP parts (fiberglass and not an actual DP car) and it was stunning. Black on black. Front mounted oil cooler. Rain gutters had been shaved on the roof and had the aero side mirrors which were fairly useless. Carrera cams, chain tensioner, 10k on a rebuilt engine and an upgraded turbo along with the DP brass adjustable boost knob in the middle of the front two seats and the BBS lightweight gold mesh racing wheels (they were different from the standard three piece gold BBS mesh wheels from the 80s) and a B&B exhaust.... I should have bought that car.

 

[quote-Senna21]I remember them. A number of their cars came with the IMSA style "fan" wheels with the b+b on the wheels. Lower case if I remember correctly. Nice looking cars and I'm assuming well put together as well. [/quote]

You're right about the wheels.............and I agree they good looking.