F1 effect on Ferrari (road car) values

There is no relationship (select cars if at all) between the F1 team's success and the price of road cars or more importantly the historic or vintage examples. Case in point. In 1988 -89 Ferrari was ten years into a dismal 19 year period without a championship win - many cars were worth more then than they are today 308s for example (70k at peak).

 

i think what you are saying is not true today. Ferrari made F1 its great success and they're building their whole brand - design, technologies, marketing - around it. i'm sure Ferrari won't leave F1, however i'm interested how will recent results affect interest of the marque at growing markets, like russia or china...

 

It would hurt the value or the brand in the long run. How much the damage would be vs. the savings of not having an F1 program are arguable. It is a shame though that the brand was built as support for the racing effort, and now the racing effort may be abandoned.
Enzo would be turning in his grave with this discussion!

BT

 

In the 80s Enzo himself threatened to quit F1 too, he even build an indy car (which didnt race in the end). They'll continue racing but in a different series.

 

F1 certainly helped "make" the marque, but now the marque has a life of it own and is so much bigger than F1 will ever be.


Ferrari leaving F1 will only effect the owners that own the road cars to merely pose as racing drivers.



The real enthusiasts FOR THE CARS THEMSELVES (like me), won't give three twiches of a cat's ass.

 

You got your's on the road yet???? Its good driving weather over there now.

You know most of us are jealous you've got the autobahn and the Nurburgring. Would give my right arm to drive my car over there.

On topic I don't think it will have any affect. Mark I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

"building their whole brand - design, technologies, marketing - around it".

This isn't too different from what they have been doing for years. And I don't necessarily agree that the success in some of the markets that emerged over recent years was due solely to the F1 team's success. Pacific Rim and Middle East markets, IMO are more driven by "me too" than they are by a connection to motorsport. The company sells every car they build and they will continue to do this as long as they compete in motorsport at a global level and bring their learnings to the road car design table. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport and Ferrari has a fantastic brand image, but many owners don't care about F1 and don't really understand whether or not there is an important dependency on competition at that level. In fact, those of us who are tech-minded would have to admit that there is little evolution in road car design that could not have come from competiton in the world sports car arena - think Porsche.

 

Probably not much. There's a lot of things that have been turned upside down with the way things are these days so I don't think people would be that surprised or equate the two.

That's what is currently going on in the manufactures' minds, what are we really getting out of this huge F1 expenditure especially when sales are in the tank? Does F1 really make a difference in car sales? I'm sure when it comes right down to it, Honda were happy to have an out.

 

This would be a question only if Ferrari were seriously considering leaving F1. They're not.

 

It wont be an issue. Never hurt Porsche... or Audi... or countless others...

 

Ferrari has always been about racing. They have raced many different "series" through history. LeMans was once a premier event, but now they are not involved (directly). Over time, that may change. But the day Ferrari quits racing, the company changes forever. I just don't see that happening.

Ferrari sells road cars to finance the race team.
Lamborghini makes exotic cars specifically for the road.
Audi and Porsche race in order to improve the road cars.
American companies race as a form of advertising.
Lola has been making race cars for over 50 years - and doesn't make road cars

 

Also will they stop raping us on parts?

 

I tape and watch each practice, qualifying, and race, but I'm getting disillusioned with F1. So it would not disturb me if Ferrari dropped from F1 as they have threatened. I don't think Ferrari made such a threat lightly, and so think it could very well happen. Perhaps that would open up a return to some form of endurance or other class of closed-wheel racing.

IMO, a Ferrari SUV would have a far worse impact on dilution of history and values of the marque. I think most here feel that is not seriously being considered. However, an Fchat member who I know and trust and has experience with the Factory says he's seen drawings of an SUV. I'm not so sure the way Ferrari is going that an SUV won't eventually happen.

 

as long as they race that is all that matters for the most part but ferrari not racing would be...I don't even want to think about it. Still the cars would sell on style, speed and history regardless of racing events or the lack therof

 

Lamborghini has had very limited experience in any form of racing yet their cars still remain premium-priced exotics. I think the history of racing helps, but the road cars are objects of desire whether Ferrari races F1, NASCAR or karts.