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FBI wrecks an F50 in Lexington Ky

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  1. bundas

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    from this morning phone conversation. car stolen in ny state. wrecked on enterprise drive in lexington ky. please understand this is secondhand info. i am doing my best to provide correct info. and always stand ready to be corrected. more to come soon. beautiful day here my 550 is out of bodyshop again. poor thing was scraped in Starbucks parking lot again but only 1G worth this time, lucky last time was 12G when backed into by a giant suv
     
  2. SRT Mike

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    You missed the mark on this one - BIG time.

    Sfu is one of the good guys.

    Sackey is always the same, like a broken record. That's why he irritates a lot of people on the site. Sfu is one of the funny ones who occasionally takes him on.



    Posting a funny clip from two famous comedians is a racially charged attack? Laughable.
     
  3. RufMD

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    Alex,

    I know this story in exact detail and the only reason I have not disclosed it is because it is before the courts at a delicate phase...and I have been asked not to discuss the matter until it is adjudicated/plea bargained etc. Considering the power of the requesting party, I'll abide by that request....they have been very helpful and gracious to me along the way.

    I did not initiate this thread, nor could I control the events of this past week....but being a Ferrari site everyone legitimately wants to know the details...yesterday !!! I understand that, but I do not wish to discuss anything partially because that will lead to more speculation/innuendo.

    The reason some trusted friends are privy to details as they occurred, was so that the events could be corroborated by third parties....as you know, fchatters can be a skeptical bunch :)
     
  4. joe sackey

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    You have no idea what you are talking about.

    My participation on this site is to contribute meaningful information. I don't need you or anyone else to validate the fact that I fulfill that basic obligation. You missed the mark on the purpose of my presence - BIG time. Perhaps referring you to the cliche that "Life is not a Popularity Contest" might help explain it to you. My old man always made me understand that it far better to tell it like it is. Naturally that might rub some the wrong way.

    Sfu funny? Not nearly. Moronic? Clearly.

    Rob coming on here and making sure that the spirit in which that video was presented was appropriate, is appropriate. I personally found that video funny 20 years ago, and still do today. At least I found Richard Pryor funny!

    Go back to Taxachussets or whatever vigilante state you are in and think things over before jumping into discussions where you have no place to be, as you always do for purposes of adding nothing at all but inflammation.
     
  5. VIZSLA

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    It sounds like there won't be any new information for a while so can't we just give it a rest until then?
     
  6. SefacHotRodder

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    #206 SefacHotRodder, May 30, 2009
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  7. Sfumato

    Sfumato F1 World Champ

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    Then take it down the way you have taken down all the posts pointing out Joe's TOS violations and PM me.
    Don't post baiting me, calling me a habitual racist in your public forum when you know damn well I'm the last one to do so.

    Many of the people who have had issues with this person are of other ethnicities or religions as well (ie Jas for one). Many members I call friends here are as well, and race doesn't matter. But long memory and reports from others tells that someone c/o racism every time they don't get their way here or elsewhere.

    I had no idea until someone told me-I just dismissed him as a self-important teflon TOS breaker. I won't post names of others that have had the race card played against them. Or threats, as noted below, ironically in the middle of a TOS break.
     
  8. joe sackey

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    #208 joe sackey, May 30, 2009
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    Very funny video - unlike you.

    As usual you ramble on in incoherent sentences strung together haphazardly.

    First of I could care less what most other car dealers have been involved with Im cut from a completely different cloth as anyone who has dealt with me will attest, and such drama as FBI involvement will never be part of my life. There is a right way to do things, and another way, and from where I sit its not difficult to seperate the 2.

    Your personal jibes are meaningless to me. They only show you up for who you are. You may be a surgeon, but as Rob himself alludes, it means NOTHING in terms of having common sense or being a sane person.

    Are you suggesting this car was stored in a warehouse that was seized by the FBI? Since you allude same, why was it stored there? You seem to suggest that it is no big deal and this sort of thing just happens all the time - where innocent parties just happen to have items stored in a warehouse involved in drug-dealing. Says a lot about your personal integrity. Im still waiting for you to post that testimonials page (full page, real patients please). Zip to date.

    To even ask me the question about the Algar F50 tells me what an idiot you really are. By the way, you suggest I'm vulturing the thread subject? I wouldn't have touched that car myself or for any of my clients a year ago with a ten foot pole. I think my reputation for dealing with cars of impeccable provenance is well-established.

    You suggest that I dont put many miles on my cars. When are you going to grow up? Perhaps you dont realize it but there is more to LIFE than racking up miles and there is always another person with more miles than you. Its as stupid as the 'my ***** is longer than yours' childish comparison. My family and 3 kids from teenage son down are my absolute number one priority, no exceptions, period. I could give a crap if you or anyone else thinks I should be doing more miles on my Ferrari Supercars, and, in fact Im proud of the fact that I defer the mileage pursuit, in order to spend more time with them whilst I can! A concept you clearly haven't a clue about.

    As for the rest of your rambling and self-perceived but non-existent wit, it not worth addressing. Pryor was funny. You, well, not so much...
     
  9. rob lay

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    well, if I was racist and trying to hide it I would post something like the above and then complain about how the world is way too PC these days. expected.

    please explain to me why posting that video had any relevance to this thread, Joe, or anything?
     
  10. joe sackey

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    Oh dont get your panties in a wad. He never called you a habitual racist. He was just checking, and oh my, aren't we defensive!! I wonder why...

    I thought the video was very funny. Inappropriate for this thread, but funny. If you posted it, deal with the fallout.
     
  11. rob lay

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    Joe doesn't deserve much defense anymore because of how he posts and attacks. I didn't address anything here except your posting of the video. Please tell me what relevance it has to this thread?
     
  12. Steveny360

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    I am guessing here. I know nothing, this is just puely a guess on my part.

    Someones car was stolen and then through the help of law enforcement the car was located and was taken to be returned to the rightful owner. During the drive the car was crashed?
     
  13. joe sackey

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    Rob I appreciate the impartiality. But you'll notice that I never attack unless Im being attacked (usually for no reason). There are threads around here that have run for years that are quiet & informative, nothing more. That says it all.
     
  14. Sfumato

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    #214 Sfumato, May 30, 2009
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    We all know nobody but you knows "the real story". Perhaps a comment of mine, a guess surmised by years around these cars, has a clue to the real story.

    You contribute your side of every story, repeatedly, all over the "Sackey Sub-forum", and bleat like a little girl when someone disagrees. You're condescending to people who may know FAR more than you. I agree with your father it is best to tell it like it is, but you obviously didn't listen when I'm sure he taught respect for others, nor the ability to make it without tearing others down.

    The video was presented in reference to your behavior, and because it's hysterical. Your only finding Richard funny could be construed as reverse racism, but that is as ludicrous as my using the clip as racism.

    Implying vigilantism is racist when it is in no way applicable. You have come up with a racial equivalent to Godwin's law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

    I think the world of you too, Agent 00Joe.
    I first noticed you when you were attacking someone else, and it sat there. The above examples were unprovoked towards others.

    Rob, I'm not the only one fed up with this situation. I was looking for a car, and it was impossible to wade through the bloviations for hard info from owners who DRIVE their cars. The accusation of vigilantism merely reinforces my conjecture that Joe implies those who disagree are out to get him, or racist. Either insecure, hence his attempts at omniscience, or paranoid.

    Joe proved my point for me while I was writing that post complaining of vigilantism. And again, why didn't you take it down like you did the post I saved rather than calling me a racist too? At least you didn't call me a moron :)
    Take the link down so it isn't used as an example of Chevy being a real racist whle Richard (RIP) is the recipient. Ludicrous to believe that. Jim's Lenny Bruce quote that Joe didn't like probably needs to come down as well.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    At least you're consistent!
     
  16. rob lay

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    Excuse me doc, I'm not as smart as you. So Joe's behavior was equivalent to racist back and forth name calling? It is hysterical, but why posted in this particular thread? Why not in Off Topic to discuss the hilarity of it?
     
  17. Steveny360

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    Hot, warm or cold?
     
  18. Sfumato

    Sfumato F1 World Champ

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    Who knows? Why did you elect to leave it and imply racism? Or tolerate the multiple Joeisms in this thread, or since I posted the link?

    We're all smart here, it's the Intarnets, and you elected to leave the link, start the discussion in the thread. Wonder what motivated that?

    Joe's behavior is impudent, rude, and baiting, and his "I never attack unless I'm attacked" BS can be disproven with tons of posts that I don't care to look for. The persecuted Joe. The teflon Joe. The omniscient Joe. The subject of vigilantism Joe.
    The video is hyperbole, but sadly not far from what Joe accuses those of us who disagree.

    Again, please delete the link if it offends, it was not intended as such. If you want to continue this discussion in this thread, it's your forum, and at least it's above board so Joe can't claim racism on your part either. We could ALL be vigilantes, Joe.

    BTW, Lenny Bruce was far from racist, as well. He tried to devalue the words used by racists to make them powerless. Why Joe didn't like Jim's use of Lenny's material seemed senseless. Some background http://www.talkingpeople.net/tp/world/people/lennybruce/lennybruce.htm WARNING possible offensive content explained by side note: "Lenny Bruce was a beautiful man who worked in nightclubs as a comedian. He was very critical of people and society because he really cared -- he cared about all types of freedom and respect for all types of people. Here is an excerpt from one of his shows. The point of this show is clear: fight against the viciousness of words by refusing to give them their power to hurt people."

    Just as the Richard-Chevy skit intended. If I was racist, I wouldn't have posted that in the first place.

    Rob brought profession into this, as you did in another thread. I'm here as a Ferrarist, nothing else. As are the other physicians you insulted in my earlier post.

    And, Agent 00Joe, just because you don't understand a post doesn't mean it is incoherent. Just incomprehensible to you. Like the hysterical James Joyce quote you dismissed as babbling or somesuch.
     
  19. rob lay

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    I'm not getting a solid answer from you. I left it because I thought you might offer one as I could have missed something.
     
  20. Sfumato

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    Entire strip malls, warehouses have been seized. Uninvolved parties get their property back eventually. If you can read, look at this: http://law.jrank.org/pages/1231/Forfeiture-Constitutional-challenges.html WTF does that have to do with my personal integrity? Explain with details please since we're demanding things.

    And HIPAA prevents me disclosing any information about my patients. Any moron knows that, you sign a form whenever you go to an MD/ER/Dental office. I'm still waiting for you to quit whining like a little girl, and dissing cars until you can broker them.

    Only F50 out there I recalled being part of a federal issue, but it may be another. 6 years a long time.
     
  21. Etcetera

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    He makes the man from La Mancha look like Einstein.

    Sorry, Miguel.
     
  22. Sfumato

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    I'd give you graphic detail if you'd have PM'd me after deleting it. You chose otherwise. I won't fuel Joe's paranoia, nor open myself up to your accusations in a public forum.

    You letting Joe's abuse sit untouched speaks volumes as well.

    I called BS on Joe. The clip takes escalating namecalling/word association to an ugly end, just like Joe namecalls endlessly, then says he is attacked. Clip could have been Italians, Jews, Irish. I didn't know 00Joe was a black man until LONG after I thought he was an arrogant dick. Changed nothing of my opinion of him, he is still an arrogant dick incidental to that. People have told me he uses the race card, the clip was a parody.

    You know me and many others do as well. Accusing me publically is charming.

    You brought my profession into this as Joe has in the past. Jas is an MD, as are many, many others here. WTF did that have to do with this?

    If you want to leave the clip, your choice. I probably shouldn't have posted it, it gave 00Joe more martyr material, let him say "Oh dont get your panties in a wad. He never called you a habitual racist. He was just checking, and oh my, aren't we defensive!! I wonder why..." to my defense to your implication.

    You told me it wasn't may job to police Joe. Guess what- NOBODY is. So I post complaining and parodying, and you go after me, or send someone else to do so.

    You said yourself a few posts back "Joe doesn't deserve much defense anymore because of how he posts and attacks."
    That is very correct, and the martyr/racist/defensive only crap is disgraceful and reflects poorly on the whole Supercar forum if not elsewhere.
     
  23. SRT Mike

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    The video is two guys humorously calling each other names. I'm sure neither Richard Pryor nor Chevy Chase were offended or intended it to be offensive, it is just funny. In this thread, there are a few people also calling each other names. The video was a humorous depiction of a couple of guys just tossing bombs at each other. Why does it have to have a racist angle?

    Sfu is obviously a very sharp guy. He can take a joke and give one too. I'm sure he doesn't need me to speak for him.

    Really, do we have to be so touchy on the matter?

    As for Sackey, there are a lot of people who think the guy is nothing more than an irritation. There isn't a thread about any of these supercars he doesn't jump into, and proclaims his opinions to be the right ones, and anyone else's are just based on ignorance. The guy invites flames, doesn't he? Besides, hasn't he broken the TOS numerous times in this very thread, before and after the video posting?

    It seems to me there's a bunch of people who think the guy is a <insert any one of various words here> and the vast majority of them are well respected long-time users. And Joe's just a victim?

    IMO, nope. He's just being Joe. And irritating blowhard who doesn't know 1/10th of what he thinks he knows.
     
  24. SRT Mike

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    #224 SRT Mike, May 30, 2009
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    Actually I'd say your participation here is to further your own financial goals, isn't it? Weren't you quite often warned or even banned or censored for promoting your business without being a sponsor? No need to answer, because I know the answer is yes.

    LMAO at the shot at the state I live in. Is that supposed to hurt me or make me angry? LOL. Sackey, when you are reduced to making fun of where people live, it's pretty much a sure thing that you ain't got much else in your bag of tricks.

    I'm sure most of us can see that the reason you are pissed is because you came on here as the expert (as always) proclaiming to know all the details of this situation. A few people who really *do* know the details made you look stupid. And instead of just conceeding the point or bowing out gracefully, you go on the attack (again, as always).

    I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    EDIT: And since Rob is coming into the thread to ensure the posting was approriate (and since the concern was apparently for you, and stated above you have found it funny for 20 years), then clearly the matter of the video post is resolved and no further explanations are necessary.
     
  25. rob lay

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    Stupid statement. Since when is Joe's abuse untouched? Joe has been warned, moderated, and banned as much as anyone outspoken and controversial as him.

    Stupid statement. So your diversion and defense is to accuse me of attacking ALL doctors so you get ALL doctors against me? You are being an ass now, I think all doctors are smart, that's why I said it and remarked I was surprised you post like you do. I thought you had a decent response that your work has nothing to do with your internet participation. Trying to turn that statement into something for all doctors to turn against me is inexcusable.
     

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