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Discussion in 'Australia' started by ashsimmonds, Oct 21, 2006.

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  1. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    100k
     
  2. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Hehe. :D:D
     
  3. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

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    lol
     
  4. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    IMO the market for classic cars in good shape,with some strong recent local sales.
    Problem i am told is finding stock.
     
  5. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Tell em I have my 348 for sale. :eek::eek:

    $220K, broker gets 30% cut. ;);)
     
  6. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    i'M Torqueing real cars pre 1980.
     
  7. YSS

    YSS Formula Junior

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    gents

    how accurate do yo think redbook is

    ive sold a few cars in teh last year and each time it was in the redbook retail range. the cars had less km than the range suggested but still - seems to me like a pretty accurate tool for wholesale values.

    if its close, 599's are at 50% of new value after less than 2 years.

    www.redbook.com.au

    be interested to see if you think the value range lines up with what you think a cars "real" value is...
     
  8. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You're all torque!! :D:D
     
  9. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    redbook compile their data from sales, not from what is being asked, they base their data on the wholesale price of the car and the mark up expected by a dealer.........as i previously stated a 599 is not worth any where near the retail new car price...the tear up is massive, and Ferrari are not the only ones to cop a hammering. Any exotic suffers a tear up.
     
  10. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Golden rule on prestiage cars wholesale value after 18 months, deduct all the tax when new and you have its value wholesale,unless its a odd ball car like a GT3.
     
  11. alexm

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    The tear-up at the top end is eye watering to say the least.. not "smart money" at all to buy something like this new.. wait a year and half and reap huge benefits in every sense.. rinse and repeat
     
  12. Arvin Grajau

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    golden rule.
     
  13. YSS

    YSS Formula Junior

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    LCT or LCT and GST
     
  14. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    all 3.
    Do the figures on say a BMW,M Benz or Maserati or Aston Martin,its about right,talking wholesale.
    Best keeping to the classics,golden rule their buy on the clubs,events and or build # of the said model.
     
  15. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    LCT, stamp duty and GST and add more for depreciation of the product

    and becuase a 599 or 612 has crashed it doesnt necessarily mean all models before it crash as well.......the 550 is a good example, say 500+ new and now in wholesale form is flat out at 150k, the 12's of Ferrari never hold their value unless its a carby 12 or odd ball
     
  16. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    or a 2 seater.
     
  17. IanB

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    Goober is 98% correct, with one change "12's of Ferrari never hold their value unless its a 2 seater carby 12 or odd ball"

    The "odd ball" encapsulates the supercars, I'm sure F50's and Enzos will do well in the future.
     
  18. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    do choppers hold up in value?
     
  19. Horse

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    Trouble maker.
     
  20. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    are you in the market for stock?
     
  21. Horse

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    Allways.
     
  22. IanB

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    they do actually, have a look through the auction results over the last year.

    A good conversion maintains a small premium over an equivalent coupe, although plexi coupes are the "blue chip" Daytonas for the future.
     
  23. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Why the Plexi cars,must say their my favourite over the pop up light cars.
     
  24. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    cos u know the plexi glass ones work, its a hit and miss on the pop up type
     
  25. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    same with the Boxer pop ups,I would belt them with a rubber hammer. or just leave 'em as thet were standing up.
    For a while I jammed a bit of wood in either side and kept them up right.
     

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