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  1. DF1

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    Anyone else would be gone by now. Seems that having survived that scandal has made him stronger. Maybe a stake to the heart and a silver cross would do the trick;)
     
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    The empty grand stands so far this year have nothing to do with Mosley, that's Bernie's deal. And Bernie has stopped his silence and it appears he is in the FIA's corner. This guy at Pitpass, Chris Balfe, despite his position does not appear to understand the legal issues.
     
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    Well Mosley would be better suited for a career in the church!! seeing he is so holy pathetic, David your bang on Max and his fans can go swivel he is a filthy dictating cockroach.
     
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    What is stopping FOTA teams from not only starting their own series, but simultaneously joining a budget capped 2010 F1 Championship, in which the said teams send to the track 2 cars each and minimal personnel and pull into the pits upon the start of each race? They would be fulfilling contractual obligations, but proving a point at the same time.
     
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    Domenicali: Ferrari's position has not changed
    Thursday 11th June 2009 - PlanetF1.com

    Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali has warned the FIA not to just include Ferrari in next year's line-up unless they are willing to submit to FOTA's conditions.


    Time is fast running out ahead of Friday's announcement that will name the teams who will be allowed to compete in next year's Championship. And with the war between FOTA and the FIA still unresolved, it remains to be seen whether any of the FOTA teams will be included.


    Although FOTA, which consists of all the current teams barring Williams and Force India, did put their names forward for next year's campaign, they did so with two conditions attached.


    One of those is for a new Concorde Agreement to be signed by no later than June 12th while the second stipulation is that next year's Championship run under the same regulations as this year's.


    As of yet, though, FIA President Max Mosley has refused to back down on his plans to introduce a budget cap, while reports claim that the FIA could yet put Ferrari's name down as an automatic entry given their deal with the Scuderia that saw the Italian outfit given veto powers in return for signing on until 2012.


    However, Domenicali, speaking after Wednesday's FOTA in London, warned Mosley and the FIA not to force Ferrari's hand in the matter.


    "Ferrari's position has not changed," he said.


    "Back on 29 May, we put in a conditional entry with the other teams that make up FOTA. Along with this entry, we put forward to the FIA a package of proposals which included among other elements, a significant reduction in costs.


    "As always, we will do all we can to find a solution that is acceptable to all parties. If this is not possible, then the FIA will not be able to include Ferrari in the list of teams entered for the 2010 FIA Formula 1 World Championship
     
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    Renault CEO demands F1 revenue
    Wed 10 Jun, 04:56 PM - F1Live.com



    During an audition before France's National Assembly held on Wednesday, the CEO of car manufacturer Renault spoke strongly against the current state of revenue sharing in Formula One.

    Speaking of Renault and the other manufacturers with established Formula One teams, Carlos Ghosn declared: "We are the ones doing the show, who bring in the technology, who bring in the engines, who hire the drivers. And if we do the show, the revenues of Formula One must come back to us."

    Echoing the demands of the eight Formula One Teams Association members (Renault, Toyota, Ferrari, BMW, McLaren, Brawn, Red Bull and Toro Rosso), AFP reported Ghosn as insiting that the regulations should be amended in order to ensure that the "principal beneficiaries" be those who create the attraction.

    Currently the commercial rights holder keeps a majority portion of the revenue, with the rest allocated between the teams.

    The Renault CEO also underlined the need for additional manufacturers to enter the sport, and further criticised the sums collected in order to participate in F1.

    "Today we pay to be in Formula One; that is not normal," Ghosn said. "Intermediaries have made enough money with this. We want to take back control of Formula One."

    In light of the ongoing talks between the FOTA alliance and the FIA regarding next year's controversial regulations, Ghosn made Renault's position clear.

    "We want the same rules for everyone," he stated. "Accepting different rules depending on the constructor is out of the question."
     
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    I wouldn't worry about Renault to much. The French don't win too many wars. Ok I know the FIA is French, but they may not win this war either no matter what happens. I think there are too many things that are hurting F1. The cost to go to races is very high during the worst economic climate since the Great Depression. There are too many incidents that are hurting the F1 image (although I personally think not much of this is new) such as sex scandles (who cares), the Indy incident, etc. F1 has a lot of things to heal before it collapses. This just may be the las straw on the camels' back even if FOTA (Should be ***A. LOL) caves in.

    Just my 2 cents worth.
     
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    At last someone willing to state publicly what its all about. The revenue side of the equation not the spending.
     
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    Bring back Ron Dennis = Max will have a heart attack = Problem solved
     
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    Even I don't dislike Ron so much as to wish that on him;)
     
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    Ha ha looking like Bernie has pissed his pants and told Max get them back on board.. pronto.

    Max is back tracking trying to say there is room for manourvre whatta a F ing joke.
     
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    Glad to see the rest cure is progressing :)
     
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    If I get time I'll send you a pic of me doing the said thing...:)
     
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    Dave Mr Franklin created this confusion by missing a [ out when replying and editing your post.
     
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    What ever. I just didn't want to be accused of plagerism.
     

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