Exactly. It's getting pretty tiresome. The wives tales have gotten way out of control. Besides 8 out of ten cars running around out there are so far from being right who cares if a base model makes 10 more HP in a perfect car.
Bullyfighter, I generally agree with you but...I believe that all that matters is the center of mass, assuming the car is a rigid body. Well at least the bumbers are sort of a rigid part of the car. If the same weight is added to front and rear bumper, the center of mass of this added weight will be somewhere in the middle. The effect will not be much different than two heavier persons in the car. Only the inertia will be different. Adding weight to only the front or only the rear bumper will have a worse effect on handling because the front/rear weight balance is disturbed. Worst place to add weight would be high and off center, like a ladder on a roof-rack, a bucket of paint dangling at the end.
Anyone of you has personally measured the 0-63 mph or 100kmh time of your car. Don't think anyone will get close to those numbers for various reasons. Still one of the things I have to check some day, using a video camera, but not redlining and taking some care during gearshifts. Will be happy with anything under 8 sec (well, not really)
No, I have not measured the 0-60mph or 0-100kmh of my car. But I'm not one of the people making claims that Euro 308s are reaching 60 in less than 6 seconds. Most of the people that quote times of 6 seconds or less for Euro cars seem to be perpetuating something that they heard or saw another Euro owner post, but they have no specific source for the info. I just did a quick search last night for 0-60mph times on Euro 308s and the best time I could find for 0-60 on a Euro Carbed 308GTS was 6.5 seconds. This firgure was in the August 2008 Classic & Sportscar Magazine. Maybe someone could shave a one or two tenths of a second off that number if they want to fry the clutch or go into the redline, but I'd venture to say most owners care too much about their cars to abuse them like that. There will definitely be some varations based on testing conditions, and I agree with you that most people won't get close to the numbers posted. So far the claims of 60mph in under 6 seconds for Euro 308s seem to be overly optimistic. It should not matter that much, as we all know these cars are fun to drive but they are not going to win drag races against modern Corvettes, M3s, 911s etc. Best regards, Dino
You must be reading the wrong line. The only cars I know of with compression that low were built before World War Two before we knew how to make good gas. Anyone with any technical understanding of mordern automobiles would know that. This kind of misinformation is why these stupid wives tales get going. For the record from various Ferrari technical information the 308 compression ratios are as follows 308 carb US and Euro are the same at 8.8:1 308 2V Inj. US and Euro are the same at 8.8:1 308QV US 8.6:1 Euro 9.2:1
No, the front end has never been replaced. The front spoiler was a factory option. But the US side markers was part of the work that was done in order to bring the car into the US. My vin is ZFFLA13B000055127. The 'B' in the vin indicates it is designated for the European market.
Thanks for supporting my figures. I wasn't reading the wrong line, I was quoting QV ratios which is exactly what you said. But, sorry, I should have been more clear and stated these were QV ratios.
ah, sorry my bad. The shallow front spoiler and fiberglass bumpers is the best looking combo IMO, but I'm too cheap to spend $1000 on new bumpers lol
Someone posted earlier - who cares about 0-60 with a car like this? If you want 0-60, buy a 90's 'Vette or a Mustang. "Does a Dino owner care about 0-60?" Look, I get caught up in it myself until I ask myself that question...I view the 308/328 as the natural descendant of a Dino...it's not going to whip musclecars, but it looks fantastic and is great to drive. FWIW
I never realized just how closely related Dinos and 308/328s are until checking out some Dino resto threads on the other board. Chassis (same exact wheelbase), fiberglass cockpit liner and suspension wishbones are virtually identical. Doesn't really say much about the 308 that except for the engine it's 60's technology (and there were even 32V V8's in the 60's I believe), except weighs ~500lbs more than it's predecessor!
Ferrari didn't exactly charge into the future until it tried to play "catch up" with the 348/355. Mostly it was a matter of making individual components or aspects of the design better over the years. They made tweaks right up through the 1989 328s, although underneath it was very old school up to last one.
"and US 328 is 9.2, euro 9.8" Which is worth about 5HP. Acceleration-wise it's about the same difference as whether you have 15 gal of gas or 8 gal of gas in the tank on your 328...
I reread my post and I am so sorry, 100 apologies......I meant to say 9.2 for euro and 8.6 for US. Sometimes my fingers don't listen to my brain. No wonder everyone went ballistic.
