So, D-Day is tomorrow (Friday) - what will happen?

Another meaningless deadline will come and go. The ridiculous battle will continue.

The only really meaningful deadline is the first race next year.

Remember December 2008? Honda announced their withdrawal. Nobody knew what would happen. A month later a new team is born and got entry to F1.

As for the whole ridiculous war, I said it before and I say it again:

- there will be no break away series
- most of the FOTA teams will be at the start of the first GP in 2010
- the rest will be filled with the new kids on the block bringing the total to 26

Whether Mad Max, Bernie, LdM and Briatore will politically survive this I can't say and I don't care that much. But F1 will survive this and remain king on the hill of motorsports.

 

The only thing I really care about is the question whether or not Ferrari has a future in F1.

 

They will all kiss and make up and everything will be hunkey-dorey - business as usual (for whatever usual is for these entertainers) .....meanwhile just lots of hot air, enough to fly around the world many times.

Carol

I'd really like to see them to tell Max/Bernie to shove it but realistically.....not gonna happen.

Where's Ney???? we need the latest from Maroonyellow!!!

 

It only has a future in F1. Or it will become another Lamborghini. Without the scissor doors.

 

I read this on a blog:

The scenario now being discussed is one in which FOTA sticks together. The Monaco GP goes with them and then Bernie Ecclestone follows the money – which is probably the only way that CVC can get their debt repayments made (and that will involve much refinancing). The FIA would then be left in a bit of a state without much of a series beyond Williams and Force India.
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I'm not really sure, I think we are into new terrority here.

Looking at it with just the basic facts, Max has set out to increase the grid and bring cost down and is doing the complete opposite.

I believe now the real purpose of this battle is to get Max's strangle hold off F1, every man and his dog has had enough.

A good part of me agrees with Andreas and Carol, however I don't believe it's a ridiculous battle without purpose, the way it is being fought out maybe ridiculous, with letters flying back and to, but something has got to give and that's where Bernie steps in methinks.

A fact from a Mosley, he wants the teams to sign ok, he dresses up his statements in varying degrees in a seemingly compromised tone, yet the real deal governance! he skirts the issue. Only to say he will discuss that when they have signed ...Bollox!!.. A commitment to talk about change, is not after all a commitment to change, and trust him noway!!

 

A lot of noise but most will stick around.

 

It is a battle over egos, control and money at this time. It is no longer about the sport.

But unless Max doesn't get reelected (which could happen, although unlikely), he will win this battle: He can call the bluff of the FOTA with their break-away series. He could even let them try for next year and watch them fail. Eventually they'll come back.

FIA is the IRL in this game. FOTA are the Champ cars. And we know how that ended.

 

Maybe but ..Auto sport

The Formula One Teams' Association announced on Thursday night that it is setting up a breakaway championship.
Following a four hour meeting at Renault's Enstone factory, the eight members of FOTA said it had grown frustrated with the FIA's stance against it and that it had no option but to create its own championship.
"The teams cannot continue to compromise on the fundamental values of the sport and have declined to alter their original conditional entries to the 2010 World Championship," said a statement.
"These teams therefore have no alternative other than to commence the preparation for a new Championship which reflects the values of its participants and partners. This series will have transparent governance, one set of regulations, encourage more entrants and listen to the wishes of the fans, including offering lower prices for spectators worldwide, partners and other important stakeholders.
"The major drivers, stars, brands, sponsors, promoters and companies historically associated with the highest level of motorsport will all feature in this new series."
More to follow.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76292

 

Been there, watched it. In 1982. Lasted a few races then it all collapsed.

Been there, read a lot about it. A few years back, when it was the GPMA. Didn't even get a race together then it collapsed.

It is a lot easier to release a joint press communique than to actually do something. Something tangible like a book of rules and regulations or a list of tracks for 2010.

 

I agree, but it certainly appears they mean business, who knows the answer, IMO I do not feel they need to break away but just refuse to race with Max as head of the FIA..

 

Just read Mark Webber gave a two fingered salute to the FIA..

The Aussie put two fingers up at the FIA by stating that if Fota were start its own series, it would be the most prestigious been as it will have the best drivers and the best equipment.

Seems the driver are right behind it.

 

Shouldn't you be betting for Dos Equis instead? "Stay thirsty my friend"

 

Define "Max doesn't win" and we might have a deal.

BTW: I'm already betting a case of beers over Rubens vs Vettel.

 

Where's the "FOTA creates a breakaway series" vote?

 

Isn't the FIA election a ways off? (post season) If so nobody's going to wait to see the outcome before they act on a new series.

 

I don't think we will see either side win or loose anytime soon. The morons from FOTA are convinced they can pull off the pirate series and might even be stupid enough to try it. That'll last a few races if at all. At that point they'll come back on their knees begging for entrance into F1, which will be already in full swing with no names teams.

Meanwhile Ferrari is bleeding to death because they signed binding contracts with all parties. Somebody will make them pay.

So what is a Max' victory?

I'd say if the guy is still in charge of the FIA by this time (June, halfway point of the 2010 season). He'll be running either a normal F1 series (with the FOTA fools looking just like that) or one with no names teams and drivers. Either way, Max will be in charge of F1. That's my conditio sine qua non.

Accept?

 

F-Chat honesty police?

 

Well thank you.

I was the lone wolf (along with JKnight and TifosiRon) who went against the stream and said that there will be no split.

Granted I had my moments of doubt too when bombastic Briatore blarred out that the Wednesday WMSC meeting is irrelevant and FOTA will go ahead with the pirate series anyway.

Maybe the FChat honesty police should first write Briatore a big ticket.

PS: Mike, that case of Stella Artois is delicious.

 

LOL theres no escaping them...

 

Aha thats where I got confused Andreas...