What I've been suggesting since race 3, the Scuderia has now finally come to realize and accept: This season is a write off. Prepare for 2010. Development of the F60 will come to a stop and they will focus on next year's car, which will not have KERS: http://www.motorsport-aktuell.com/formel-1/news/ferrari-2010-ohne-kers-9595.html That brings back the question: Will the F60 ever get 60 points this season? I don't think so. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247747 You can still vote. PS: At the end of the season it'll be interesting to see where the F60 will end up in the history of Ferrari: As bad a dog as the 1980 car or one of the early nineties? When we'll do that comparison, we'll have to obviously use one standard set of points (e.g. 7th and 8th place shouldn't count).
The difficult thing about that is, just like with road cars even the slowest of today's F1 cars is a masterpiece of engineering. Compared to decades ago when the lesser cars were genuinely a POS.
The question is, WHAT are they developing for? The future of F1 is still in the air. What specs are they supposed to develop the car toward?
THANK HEAVENS! We should put the F60 in a time machine and send it back to the 80's. It might be competitive there. And, if it isn't, it wouldn't change Ferrari's 80's race record anyway.
Probably gearing up for the "break away series." This is what I'd get out of this move. Why dump more money into F1 requirements if the break away requirements are altogether different?
There will be no pirate series. Mark my words. Actually the specs for 2010 have been defined in the agreement from this week: It is in essence the 2009 rules with a few amendments. The biggest change is that there will be no refuelling, so the tanks will have to be bigger again. The point of the 2010 Ferrari is to emulate the perfect weight distribution of the Brawn and build it as a super diffuser car from the start.
If they try to develop next year's car this early.. will that mean unrestricted amount of testing.. ala honda 08? and if they do that.. who's to tell what they could or could not use for this year?
Since the regulations are very similar the boundaries get blurried. This is also the time when normal car development starts for next year's car. So nothing too unusual. The main difference will be that we won't be seeing much development packets coming forward for the F60 in the last third of the season and I would expect the car to go backwards compared to the competition. Then again, some competitors (BMW, McLaren) have probably come to the same conclusion and so it won't matter that much. It'll be merely a question whether Massa will get lapped once or twice by the Brawn in Interlagos.
How much is this decision driven by testing restrictions? In the past it wasn't a question of either develop next year's car or work on the current one.
You're watching Speed TV, right? How many times (hint: at least once if not twice per broadcast) have the commentators brought up the car development for clinching the title in 2008 as the reason why Ferrari and McLaren suck this year? And used the reverse case of Brawn as the reason for that success story? I'm not saying they are right, but it seems to be a trade off: If you continue developing parts for the current car, your focus is away from development of next year's car.
Not recently. Most of the comments I've heard or read center on the point you mention. My question is what part the new restrictions played. If they are a limiting factor then they would seem to have the desired (?) effect of stopping the continued domination of any particular team.
I'm sure the testing limitations play a role in this. But only so much: When they start developing the 2010 car, the monocoque won't be ready for rollout until the fall when the season is over. So all they can test at this stage are bits and pieces, which doesn't really tell them a lot until they're tested on the new car. The focus away from the F60 IMHO helps the developers, engineering and production teams back at Maranello to produce the new bits and don't get "bothered" by interspersed F60 dev parts. More time and more uninterrupted focus.
Looks like Luca doesn't agree with you... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27062009/23/montezemolo-2009-write.html Also, what good is a link to a news story that isn't in English ? Certainly the majority here will find it useless. What is the importance of gaining 60 points or not, whether they do or not wouldn't seem to matter at all. And furthermore, you have to give Ferrari credit for bringing the car along from the horrible start it had, at least we aren't running around in 15th place like Lew-Ham and Macca.
If you like LdM's spin on things, then enjoy that reading. He isn't actually saying anything of substance. Just that eventually "they will get some satisfaction". Whatever the hell that means. Notice that he was smart enough not define a tangible goal like a podium or a victory, pole or a certain number of points. The F60 was designed for KERS, that was its whole design goal and that very goal was now tossed overboard. I fail to see how this year wasn't a write off. Some people on here actually speak more than one language. And just btw: FChat is a global website. Global as beyond the borders of the US. Technically no importance. It's called humor.
Oh really, so your post is aimed at people who speak German ? or whatever the language was in that link ? LOL I bet those people are grateful for your efforts, in the meantime like I said, the majority here will find the link as useful as goat stronzo, like most of your 25 million posts... It's something a rival teams fans might find humor in I suppose, I just don't see it.
ScuderiaP1, you're out of line buddy. Tifosi is correct in stating that this is a global website, and there are a few other languages that exist besides English. If someone wants to post in German/French/Italian..etc, he should be able to do so without being abused for it. As he replied to you, if you don't like it...you can leave. If the moderators want to specify English only, then you can whine and moan about it.
Everybody knows Ferrari limited development of the F60 in favor of the 08' season's success. Well, Ferrari paid for it this season. I am not surprised by this whatsoever. It was the likely move. _J
