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  1. Modeler

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    #1 Modeler, Jul 1, 2009
    Bridgestone has revealed that it is to go against its announced policy of leaving a gap of one compound between its tyre choices for Formula One events for the four grands prix through August and September.

    The same decision was taken for Monaco on the grounds that the street circuit required the use of both the softest options in the company's range, but was not expected to be used again after the greater difference between tyres at other rounds had provided a means of performance differentiation. However, the four races from Hungary to Monza will all see consecutive compounds in action.

    “We have made the change to the tyre allocation concept based on the data we have collected from races so far this year, combined with our knowledge of the tracks we visit for these races," director of motorsport tyre development Hirohide Hamashima explained, "The cars of 2009 are very different to those used last year, so we have learnt a lot so far this year, and they do use their tyres differently from before."

    The Hungaroring has often been compared to Monaco because of its sinuous nature, and will now receive the same tyre options as the Principality, despite the likelihood of hot weather in Budapest. The same two softest compounds will also be pressed into action for the second running of the European Grand Prix around Valencia's port area, before Bridgestone takes the soft and medium options to both Belgium and Italy.

    "Hungary is a circuit where the characteristics demand our softest tyres," Hamashima continued, "This is also true for street courses, and we used the softest allocation earlier in the year at Monaco, and will again in Valencia.

    "In Spa, the weather temperatures can be quite cool, so the hard compound could have caused difficulties, and the super soft would have been too soft, so that means the allocation of medium and soft is obvious. In Monza, the hard compound would have given too big a difference between it and the soft, so we will bring the soft and the medium.”

    http://www.crash.net/f1/news/149185/1/f1_tyre_option_policy_deferred_for_summer_rounds.html
     
  2. Beta Scorpion

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    #2 Beta Scorpion, Jul 1, 2009
    Thats good. Forcing the teams to use the wrong tire for the conditions at hand is dangerous.
     
  3. Simon^2

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    #3 Simon^2, Jul 1, 2009
    whole tire situation is bonkers. let the teams pick the best tire for their car / strategy. by forcing hard tire stint they (MaXXX Mutley) have prevented 3 stop strategies... STUPID!!!!
     
  4. VIZSLA

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    #4 VIZSLA, Jul 1, 2009
    Another Mosley legacy that has to go.
     
  5. kraftwerk

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    #5 kraftwerk, Jul 2, 2009
    I like that one MaXXX MUTLEY...:D
     
  6. Remy Zero

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    #6 Remy Zero, Jul 2, 2009
    +10000
     
  7. jknight

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    #7 jknight, Jul 2, 2009
    How about Bridgestone and Michelin back as the tire suppliers as from past times, instead of a single supplier.

    Carol
     
  8. VIZSLA

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    #8 VIZSLA, Jul 2, 2009
    That would be nice.
     
  9. 1_can_dream

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    #9 1_can_dream, Jul 2, 2009
    +1 Let the teams use whatever tyres they prefer. As long as they're relatively safe (aka not going to rip to shreads within a few laps) then let them use em.
     
  10. Fast_ian

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    #10 Fast_ian, Jul 2, 2009
    +3 [Or whatever]

    However, any new supplier must be willing to supply at least 'n' teams where n=# of teams / # of suppliers.

    I love tire wars, but they shouldn't be "exclusive" IMHO.

    Cheers,
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  11. Fast_ian

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    #11 Fast_ian, Jul 2, 2009
    That statement got me thinking...... I believe it could actually encourage a 3 stopper - Obviously, only on circuits with quick in-out times, as always with 3 stops. But, it seems sometimes the "hard" works well for longer, overall. Other times, the softer is better, but only for the shorter stints inherent in 3 stops.

    The math gets quite complex, but the ability to run 3 sets of the "better" tires, and one short stint on the "worser" (sorry!) tires could give a good strategist (assuming no SC etc) an advantage. IMHO.

    Just a thought,

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  12. VIZSLA

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    #12 VIZSLA, Jul 2, 2009

    And more chances for something to go wrong in the pits.
     
  13. Fast_ian

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    #13 Fast_ian, Jul 2, 2009
    Yeah, but that's got nothing to do with tire *compounds*.

    I said it before, I like the (albeit artificial) "challenge" presented by the two-compound spread - Makes it more difficult, and F1 should be difficult IMHO.

    Cheers,
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  14. VIZSLA

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    #14 VIZSLA, Jul 2, 2009
    Sorry I'm easily distracted like most of the elderly;)
    The idea of mandated compounds made sense only in that with just a sole supplier production and logistics costs are reduced.
    Stipulating two very different compounds made no sense at all.
     
  15. Fast_ian

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    #15 Fast_ian, Jul 2, 2009
    ;)

    +1
    They're hardly (no pun intended!) "very different" - Some cars do well on one compound, others on the other. The margins are *tiny* (as I keep saying), and the one thing I DO NOT want is a spec series.

    Two different compounds from one supplier has very much the same effect as two different suppliers IMHO. - Challenge these highly paid engineers!

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  16. VIZSLA

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    #16 VIZSLA, Jul 2, 2009
    I meant to say that the double gap made no sense. Teams seem to be having trouble finding a set-up that works with both.

    Where did that nurse wander off to?
     
  17. Fast_ian

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    #17 Fast_ian, Jul 2, 2009
    I beg to differ - That increases the challenge of setting up your car.

    +1

    But, I love it when they "have trouble"! Overcoming trouble is what it's all about IMHO.

    :D I think we're agreeing here!

    Cheers,
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  18. VIZSLA

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    #18 VIZSLA, Jul 2, 2009
    Do you really think that F1 needs such artifice? IMO the less interference by the rule makers the better.
     
  19. Fast_ian

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    #19 Fast_ian, Jul 3, 2009
    Broadly speaking, no.

    OTOH, it's somewhat duplicating the situation we would have with multiple tire suppliers. Make it hard (but not dangerous) for 'em and encourage different strategies etc - They ***** and moan, but by Sunday have it somewhat figured out - Some start on one compound, some on the other, so they're not that far different - Adds to the "show"..... [And, it gives Matchett something else to explain for the 100th time :)]

    +1
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    #20 VIZSLA, Jul 3, 2009
    Too bad this economic climate makes it unlikely that we'll see competing tire makers.
     
  21. Fast_ian

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    #21 Fast_ian, Jul 3, 2009
    +1 As I've said, there's nothing like a good ol' tire war to reduce lap times.

    Does anyone know how long Bridgestone are committed for? If their BOD pulled the plug it could get really "interesting"......
     

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