308 Assembly Sequence Numbers

I have GTSi #31311, march 80.... and if the stamp we are talking about is near the coolant overflow mine says 4

 

For my 308GTS QV

On door plate:

December 1983
ZFFUA13A6E00 49415

Under a hose I could not move under the plenum was a
number stamped that ends in 7 --- the other digits I could not see.

 

In looking at an old sheet, I found the following

Z FF U A 13 A 6 E 0 049415

Z -> Italy

FF -> Marque Manufacturer

U -> 308 4-valve USA 1984-85

A -> 3 Point Inertia Belts Front

13 -> Model. Body 308 GTS QV

A -> Left-Hand Drive USA

6 -> USA check Digit

E -> 1984 USA Model Year

0 -> Assembly Plant (Maranello)

049415 -> Serial Number

I do not remember where I got this information,
so it may not be correct --- perhaps an old
Ferrari Market Letter?

 

I purchased a 76 fibreglass 308 in the UK a few months back and once I got it home I was surprised to find assembly number #19 stamped on the oil cooler bracket. I actually doubted myself it was correct until I started pulling bits off and found matching numbers on the back of the door trims and stamped on the doors. It is chassis number 19285, engine number 00200, and was ordered in November 1975 and delivered in June 1976.

Is this the earliest 308 GTB known to have survived?? Photos attached for the curious.
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Hi "Ossie",

thank you for your infos about the 308.
My old fiberglass 308 GTB was s/n 19265,LHD,engine number 00178,assembly number 187 ,delivered in May 1976 - and it is still around (not anymore with me..but he is safe).

regards
Ivo

 

Ossie, the photo's are not showing up.....
See the GTB register by Robert Retzlaff http://www.r-design.net/308/index_e.html
You have an early car, but there are quite a few earlier chassisnumbers.....
Also, do a search on this forum regarding the assembly numbers.

 

Hi "Ivo", thanks for the quick reply. That's interesting, so yours was a later build number but earlier chassis and engine number. So what does the assembly number actually mean I wonder, is it the "order sequence number" or the date the car was on the assembly line? Anyone know?

 

Hi 8valve, the photo's are showing up OK here, you might have just viewed it when I was re-attaching smaller images, let me know if still not showing. I did a search for assembly numbers which is how I ended up on this thread but will check again. Yes have seen Robert register, my car is already on there.

 

Hi, can see the pics just fine now. Here's a long thread regarding these assy numbers: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176780&highlight=assembly+numbers

 

Isn't that this same thread? I think we're in a recursive loop!

 

haha! that's hilarious. Sorry, that was not on purpose. How are you liking this thread so far?

 

Well it's got a dej ja vu feel about it !

 

1978 308 GTB
Chassis F106AB #24753
Dry sump engine F106A021 # 01085
Assembly # 802

 

A new update done:

http://koti.welho.com/kpietil4/308.htm

Each production version has a series of numbers of its own, so #19 is a perfectly good number for 19285 and as far as we know stands for this car having been the 19th 308 GTB (RHD) rolling down the assembly line.

#802 is also a very good number for a 24753 - a steel bodied 308 GTB EU/LHD.

Best wishes, Kare

 

If it's from the Ferrari Market Letter, it's most certainly correct. You can also find this information on Edvar van Daalen's red-headed.com.

Ivo, can you tell us more about your old 308...? Was it delivered new to you...? I never knew you had a 308.

Assembly numbers, back then, were assigned to model types and, in some cases, model types and model years. They are what is today (little)known as the body number.

 

Hi Kare,

You mention my #24753 308 GTB as an Europe version.

As far as i know this is a US version re-imported in Europe (France) in 1984. The car has now Eu bumper and dry sump engine but all the rest indicates that it is a US version (door plate, side lights, dashboard lamp...). I don't know the date of the conversion.

Regards

Alex

 

The fact that your car has a dry-dump engine could mean that it was a grey-import car. A Euro version nonetheless, but then federalized upon arrival to the US. Unless it was converted from wet- to drysump? But I don't think so. Or was it possible in the 70's for a US buyer to specify a drysump engine by 'special order'?

 

I must have jumped into conclusions... As soon as GTS was introduced, US-GTBs became very very rare (US market was all about selling GTS!) and 021 indicates EU-spec dry sump engine. I would be surpriced if they built 800 GTBs for US in 1978 - which is possible of course, we are all learning here!

What date is stamped on the door jamb plate? Is it genuine Ferrari piece or something added when imported and federalized for US?

Best wishes, Kare

 

Here after pictures of the plate and stickers from my 308.First one on the door side, second one and third one on the chassis side.

Hope it could help to understand more

Alex
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These stickers are 100% proof of the fact that your car was an original Euro-spec (good stuff!!) car, and imported into the US via the grey market.
Be happy Alex, you have an original Euro, dry-sump 308 GTB in France!
Cheers, Mick

 

Hi Mick

Thanks for these informations

Good to know that my 308 is an Euro original one

 

That is very entertaining, it would appear to me that the original US buyer was savvy enough to look for a Euro version. Or he was wealthy enough... And then re-imported, classic story!

timr

 

Definately Euro door plate from the Factory, and the others are by US Dealer as "eyewash"....

Thanks for posting the pictures, always interesting....

Note how they combined the Frame number 'F106AB' and the VIN of five digits to make it "longer".....

 

Black paint on the kick sill is not correct, it should be solid silver???

 

Or then he wanted a GTB and his dealer could not get one - or didn't know they existed on US market. As said earlier, US-GTB became very rare as soon as the GTS was out! Bets wishes, Kare