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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Fastpants, Jul 29, 2009.

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  1. BJMoravek

    BJMoravek Formula Junior

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  2. crinoid

    crinoid F1 Veteran
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    I wouldn't want three pedals on this car. The fear though is that we'll loose the option. That would be disastrous.
     
  3. flnick26

    flnick26 Karting

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    Interesting point.
     
  4. Alesnik-MD

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    No thanks. In modern Ferraris, F1-type gear box for me (unless Formula 1 goes back to standard gear boxes).
     
  5. 2006m5

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    F1 is for the track not the street.

    I want a manual so i can enjoy and have fun!
     
  6. Testarossa13

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  7. Shark01

    Shark01 F1 Veteran

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    Yep, this guy gets it.


    If a real transmission isn't offered, I'll pull my name off the list and stick to a 430 instead. When I feel lazy, I'll take the bimmer instead....oh wait, that's a manual too.
     
  8. Blue4reF1

    Blue4reF1 Formula 3

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    Testarossa - What's that piece under the A/C controls?
     
  9. oss117

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    #59 oss117, Jul 29, 2009
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    Well, they must have been sold, one way or the other, because when I ordered my 545i with manual there weren't any around and it had to be built.

    Three pedals for me and a real stick on the floor!!
     
  10. thecheddar

    thecheddar Formula 3

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    I feel like the new twin-clutch gearboxes have finally been perfected. Drove a VW GTI, Porsche Cayman PDK and Mits Evolution (all similar twin-clutch/parallel gearboxes) and they were all brilliant. As much as I love a manual (and I do), it just seems like it's time to move on to such a seamless new tech. I don't think Ferrari sales will be significantly reduced by such a decision and younger buyers are increasingly comfortable with paddles (video gamer culture is finding its way into broader auto culture quickly now).
     
  11. Blue4reF1

    Blue4reF1 Formula 3

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    Totally disagree, it's never time to move on from FUN :D
     
  12. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

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    manual shift is for dinosaurs. plain and simple. you want to shift, drive a Porsche.

    ferrari=F1 and F1=paddles. get over it. Ferrari should not make stick shift available on any of its cars. its embarrassing already.
     
  13. chrmer3

    chrmer3 Formula 3

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    Stick.

    Leave the girly men who want to live out their f1 fantasies with the auto ;)
     
  14. blackbolt22

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    I am shopping for my first Ferrari. I thought I wanted F1 only until I drove both transmissions in a 360 and 430. I will not be tracking the car and don't plan on driving it more than 3-5K miles per year. So when I drive, I want to drive the car not let a computer do most of the work. I see the attraction in both and to each their own. For me, it is hard to imagine a sports car without 3 pedals.
     
  15. Aedo

    Aedo F1 Rookie

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    Admitedly the M5 is not a sports car - the current M3 is still available with a manual transmission and it seem quite popular (at least in Oz)

    Although nice to integrate these things it is possible to do the same with a manual transmission (for example Lotus have a user adjustable traction control on their manual only cars).

    I vote for manual option so that there will be second hand ones on the market in a few years for me to buy :)
     
  16. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    #66 TheMayor, Jul 29, 2009
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    Well.... I wouldn't go that far!

    I had to make that decision and I went with F1 in my F430. My reason: it improved performance. Frankly, that seemed like the entire point of buying a car of that price. If I wanted the "experience" or whatever, I could have spent a lot less and bought anything as far back as a 308. If I wanted to spend that amount of money, there were any number of classics I could have bought. But, I didn't. I bought the best sports car in the world with the best parts you can obtain for it.

    And, I actually like the F1. I like 3 pedals too but I don't dislike the F1. They are two different animals.

    I felt the same way about CC brakes. If you're going to buy the best sportscar in the world, why wouldn't you have the best gearbox and the best brakes to go with it?

    But, I'm not going to knock those who like pedals. They have a point. I just wish they would see mine more often.
     
  17. SANguru

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  18. M-individual

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    #68 M-individual, Jul 30, 2009
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    Would you care to explain why you associate the F1 transmission with "Girly Men"? (FYI: No, I'm not gay and yes, I'm all for the F1 tranny).
     
  19. LouB

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    Clutch pedals are so "last century" Its like analog vs digital. I have both (328, 512TR 575M and 430) and enjoy both but its clear where the future lies.
     
  20. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Much though I love a proper clutch and delight in the challenge of perfect heel toe shifting, I have to come down on the side of progress via the F1 trans. It is clearly superior in terms of performance, and at the end of the day, that is what an F car is all about.
     
  21. saw1998

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    My personal choice would be the 7-speed manual. However, if I were going to do a lot of track time, I would opt for the F1 transmission. I see absolutely no reason why it has to be one or the other. Additionally, I am at a loss the understand the logic of those of you who feel that by continuing to offer a manual transmission somehow makes Ferrari "antiquated". Remember, to each his own...
     
  22. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    @loub:I Think digital is the last century.Have you ever buy a digital Rolex,Panerai,Tag...? just see Aston,Pagani,Porsche ...digital is only a cheap concept & very bad taste for classics cars.
     
  23. gothspeed

    gothspeed F1 World Champ

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    Well said, there are just some things that never go out of style ........... one of them is analog watches and analog gauges ............ digital speedometer/tach looks disgusting in any car .......... now to put things in perspective ............ what would Enzo say??? ............ I rest my case .......... stick shift should always be an option.
     
  24. petearron

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    #74 petearron, Jul 30, 2009
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    Aside from the fun factor with a manual the F1 is much more expensive and complicated to maintain plus they wear through clutches much faster. While this isn't as much a concern for the new F buyer who has a warranty and typically will sell it after a few years it does effect resale for the next wave of buyers

    F1s blip and make noise, average drivers can now look cool with their 23 year old admin assistant passengers and drag race off from lights without missing a beat but driving well with a manual takes some skill that's the fun and challenge, the boy racer wannabes can have their F1s but let the hard core drivers have their manual transmissions.

    And yes all the hotties I know roll their eyes at Ferrari drivers who have auto transmissions and wonder why in a sports car seeing someone flip their little paddles vs row through the gears with that impressive looking gate in a Ferrari.
     
  25. TruenoGuy

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    A car like this definitely needs a true manual
     

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