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Stolen car...please help

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by Matt LaMotte, Nov 24, 2008.

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  1. Simon^2

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    so you've seen the question...

    Seems to me that no response speaks volumes...
     
  2. Insurancefraudinvestigatr

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    i noticed that you didnt answer my question. Oh...and its clear to me that you're not interested in anything but talkin ish ...i know now that i should not have presumed you to be reasonable. i wont be responding to anything else you say until you at least answer my question.
     
  3. Smyrna355Spider

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    I was going to just stay off this thread since I had an understanding with Matt but I just can't pass this up. Simon you and I have had differences before however I sure hope this illustrates how difficult investigating something like this can be. Here we have a man who proclaims innocence, a victim who now says I made a mistake and to top it off RA says I am fighting for freedom and the police seem not to care about identifying the true suspect. It's as usual, blame the police no matter what. The guy won't even answer your direct question (do you know what happened to the car?) then wonders why the police might seem indifferent on the phone. Imagine if he won't even give you a straight answer how much fun it must be to get him to speak openly to a detective. Next for the life of me I can't find this mysterious question RA says you failed to answer before he is willing to talk to you. Someone tell me where this is so I can atleast confirm the excuse for refusing to answer your simple question..

    RA if you are not willing to come in person and talk to the detective then it is an obvious sign of deception. Sorry just a fact in our line of work. I don't do interviews over the phone either especially after an arrest. Quite frankly if you have been charged, brought into court and don't have an attorney or atleast asked for a court appointed attorney then I am shocked again. If you did ask for one or hired one on your own then I can just about guarantee the attorney is not allowing the detective to question you any further. In either event, it sounds like you should be looking for an attorney because you are not going to accomplish proving your innocence by posting on F-chat and you are obviously not ready to discuss everything you may or may not know anyway. Good Luck
     
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    nahhhhh....i NEED more COWBELL!! lol
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  8. Simon^2

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    maybe I have ADD... I can't find a question addresses to me in the novels you posted. Ask your question again, and I'll respond...
     
  9. Simon^2

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    Scott, this thread has my head spinning. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be as the investigator. Can I buy you a beer... or a case!

    Thanks for posting that you can't find the question either... I reviewed his posts and can't find it either...
     
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  10. Simon^2

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    Sometimes FChatSucksDick... ;)
     
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    He answered your query thricely, sir.
     
  12. Insurancefraudinvestigatr

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    sigh......with all due respect. are you trying to be ironic...or does it come naturally? you defended "cops" against my charge that the cops in this case were a bit slothful, a conclusion i came to because i know for a fact that they have in their records exactly what they needed if they wanted to get in touch with me prior to issuing the warrant. you twisted my concerns about 'THE COPS ON THIS CASE' into a concern about ALL COPS. basically, you addressed a point i never made..then proceeded to protest your own distorted interpretation of what i actually said. and you did it, it seems not in the persuite of the truth, but rather, it appears, out of 'professional' loyalty.

    secondly you suggested that i was 'not willing to come in person to talk to the detective'. that alone is sloppy thinking. first of all, i did go down to the police department trying to get with Finley.....i had just as much luck as i had trying for months to get him on the phone. so your 'not willing' statement is based upon a 'feeling' not a fact.

    thirdly, assuming you WERE correct and i was 'not willing' to see the detective, exacty how is that an OBVIOUS attempt at deception...this suggests that there are not things other than 'an attempt at deception' that might have driven the supposed lack of willingness to meet with the detective. if youre reasonable, you could come up with a few (seeing as this is what reasoning does. consider alternatives).

    forthly, where did the conclusion that i came to court without an attorney come from? was it detective work? was it simply one of those 'facts of your line of work' that lead you to that conclusion? why did you do that? why did you present that perception as a fact? The fact is that my attorney was present.

    Ironically, despite your apparent deep seeded need to defend or play the advocate for the work of 'cops', the fact is that i never raised any questions about 'cops', but rather the cops in queston. HOW DOES THE ABOVE POINTS NOT LEND CREDENCE TO MY CONCERN THAT THE D.A. AND POLICMAN IN QUESTION MAY SACRIFICE MY INNOCENCE AND FREEDOM ON THE ALTER OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL RECORDS.

    But why did you do that? why did you bring 'cops' into this and not focus on the cops in 'this' case as I did? something you said earlier may reveal the answer to this question: speaking of me, you said:

    "Here we have a man who proclaims innocence, a victim who now says I made a mistake"



    "....................... i made a mistake"<======== ????


    perhaps you are the policeman whose work i am questioning. are you using 'the cops' to camouflage yourself and your personal work ethic from the view of reasonable critique? if you are the policeman in question, remember that you are not infallible, nor are policemen at large. people make mistakes, even if they are cops.... but continuing in that error after being made aware of the mistake, converts mistakes into questionable intent. therefore im raising questions. If you are the policeman in question try not to take my concerns as an attack on you. I just want my innocence in this matter respected and honored. If we can't depend on policemen, district attorney's and judges do that, who can we depend on?

    Matt is concerned primarily about his car, you seem to be primarily concerned about your professional standing or that of the cops involved (something i was worried about) though, i could be wrong (i too am human). and me....well I'm so small minded as to be primarily concerned about something so trivial as my own innocence and freedom....


    Finally, its not simply ME that has said that I wasnt the guy who did this...but apparently, Matt, the person who originally accused me of being the guy who did this who, after meeting me face to face says that im not the guy. im not simply 'proclaiming' my innocence... IAM INNOCENT. to my knowledge Ive never met Matt before in my life. Doesn't that matter at all to you? (this is not a rhetorical question).


    Oh and to answer the question as to whether or not i know where Matt's car is, the answer is NO. If i did know i would have no problem turning the ****** that may be sitting somewhere watching this whole thing chuckling at an innocent person goin down for their crime.

    Ra
     
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  14. Simon^2

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    Come on... you called me out... what's the question?
     
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  15. Simon^2

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    so not only is this too difficult of a question...

    You can't even seem to ask me the question you accuse me of not answering...
     
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    Is this where you got your train of thought?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0XgfBI8ke8
     
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    I dont understand why you are saying you cant find a question addressed to you iafter you yourself reposted in an excerpt of my 'novel'. here it is again:


    "Are you suggesting that there is no conceivable situation that you can envision wherein my innocence can be established here, yet a discussion with me can help lead to the guilty party? ...Somethings aren't an either or...... its not either i didn't do it and i know nothing that could help. OR i know something that could help and therefore, im guilty..."

    apparently, while reposting it yourself, you missed the fact that the first sentence there is followed by a question mark.
     
  18. Simon^2

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    nice post mod...

    but not quite what i asked...

    and where was that question addressed to me genious?

    but to answer your question...

    you implied earlier that you had some info...

    quit the games. if you are innocent, yet you still know something, tell what you know.

    to keep silent means you are (1) not innocent, or (2) it is worth it to you to provide cover for the guilty.

    In my world, covering for the guilty, makes one far less than innocent.

    I will re-phrase my question. Do you know anything about this mess?
     
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    why are you pretending to be slow? i dont know where the guys' car is...dont know what happened to the car and i havent talk to anyone who does. i had nothing to do with this and to MY Knowlege i dont know anyone who was involved. further...i didnt imply anything other than questioning me might reveal something that the cops overlooked. everything i know about this ive told my attorney in hopes that he would give that info to the cops. i said that earlier, somehow you missed it...i also said that ive gone tried for months to talk to the police, even going down there several times (to no avail). Why you keep ignoring this makes YOU suspect. NOW.. again..if YOU are a cop and more specifically a cop involved in this...the question remains why didnt you use the info I KNOW you have in your records that would lead you to me so that you could question me. furthermore..why are you suggesting that im covering for anyone? how could i be covering for someone on something when i have said that to my knowlege, i have no direct beyond reason idea about who may have done this. you seem to just WANT me to be guilty. which 'game' is it that you are saying that im playing? be direct. if anything, it seems that YOU have some knowlege about what you THINK i KNOW for a fact. if this is so....exactly why arent YOU playing it straight...why dont YOU stop playing games. I'll not say here, what i think of your simplistic attempt to play my head, and the attitude...but it aint nice.

    I said earlier that i would not respond to you if you could not be reasonable.....from this point i will honor that rule..


    Have a nice life
     
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    so, you have established knowing nothing about the matter, but how about your wife? How did her notary seal end up on a bill of sale? Does she recall anything that might lead to the whereabouts of the missing car?

    I have feeling on what happened but will reserve my judgement until further explanation.
     
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    further explanation????!!!!!???? man kiss my ass!

    youre ******.... what part of 'i know of noone who knows anything ' dont you understand?......this is all fun for you...im finished with you
     
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    you are easy......lol
     
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    lol top....
     
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    The simplest definition of irony is "the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, &#8220;How nice!&#8221; when I said I had to work all weekend"

    Please know the meaning of the words you use before you use them. I meant exactly what I said so I sure don't see how I am being ironic.

    1) I am a 'Police Officer" but not from Birmingham so don't worry I am not defending myself as the Detective involved with this case.
    2) Read before you write. I was addressing Matt as the "Victim who made the mistake" see my previous post where I made it clear that his actions caused harm to you, not the detective who relied on his identification.
    3) Since you seem to want to make it clear that I was completely wrong about my belief that your attorney (that I questioned if you had) would want you to talk to the detective. I stand corrected that he wished for you to be interviewed. Funny however you were on crimestoppers and the whole time you had come by the police station several times. That one is lets just say is strange and hard to understand. I will say this I bet he wouldn't want you posting about your pending case on the internet but that's your business not mine.
    If you will read and not just make assumptions I said I was shocked if you didn't get an attorney. I did not conclude that you did not have one as a fact.
    4) Finally sir I have no idea in the previous ramblings how it appears I am somehow your enemy. The fact is simply this. The information about this entire episode is suspect to say the least. The information that you were not willing to be interviewed was provided by Matt in previous post. Read the entire thread but I personally would be more concerned with my court case and finding out how my spouse's Notory seal ended up in the middle of this case. As for your arrest and concerns, I previously posted and maintain I think it is a tragic thing that you were arrested and Matt now says you are not the man involved after he previously identified you with a court case now pending. I really hope the truth comes out but you are the only person making personal verbal attacks to other posters. Be an adult, be calm and finally don't bother posting on the internet if you don't like the questions. Good luck Sir
     
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