My new 360 won't go into gear! normal?

Hi all, i have just purchased a 360 its a 2000 manual. when i test drove the car the garage already had the car up to temperature and all the gears were nice. Once i had the car home and cooled, i drove it again and found a problem. when i try to select any of the forward gears like 1,3, or 5 the stick moves all the way forward then pops back 1/4 of an inch and doesent go into gear. I have to hold it there for a moment or two then let go and look to check it has stayed forward. once it stays forward i can bring the clutch up. I had a 348 before this and that was a pain to get into gear when cold but i thought this had been sorted by the 360. Can any one let me know what might be wrong or if this is perhaps normal. After 15 minutes of driving it all seems fine. I have only driven the car twice now so i dont know if driving with anger when warm will still be ok as i have only driven it carefully once i thought i had a problem.

 

thanks Guys, I spoke to another garage and they said the same as you guys that it might need adjusting. I measured the side to side movement and forward/ backward movement and its about 5mm total movement in both axis. Does this sound like a new bush needed? I couldn't see a crack but I haven't had it apart yet. The best thing I think is to get a new bush any way, get some of the new fluid you suggested and then have it adjusted or do that myself also. Any one know of the top of there head the part number? I will have a look if not. I am sure my good friend Daniel pass will have what I need.

Even though I want to replace the bush, does that sound about the right movement? or is that worn in ferrari 360 terms... its far less than my other car.

 

Hi, I got my bush through from Ricambia America and started to fit it. I checked with the thread that chrmer3 did for us and had a read up. I was gutted to see that Hill Engineering is based in the UK!! I wish I had paid more attenuation the first time I read the thread. I could have got my bush next day!! Daniel did his best as usual and got it here very quick any way. Here is a picture of my old broken bush.
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I got it all back together and went for a test run, sadly it was no better at all, I was disappointed and very worried as the garage I got the car from are not being helpful and I am worried that I could have got a lemon car! I did get the car at a very good price so I knew I had bits to do, I didn't bank on this though... It wouldn't go into any of the front gears ( 1-3-or 5 ) above 20 mph. I was thinking at this point that it could be a gearbox rebuild if I couldn't adjust it to work. After much time adjusting and testing I hadn't even got close so I want to bed gutted.

I spoke to a friend that has a 2 post ramp and decided to get it up and have a look underneath at the linkage in the hope of finding something
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Success!!!!!! the end part of the outer cable that has a movable joint had come away and slid down the cable exposing the floppy inners, what was happening was when I tried to select a gear where the cable had to push out, it got so far then would rather buckle to the side than finish the push home if you see what I mean.
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I pushed it back in and it clicked back into place but I knew it wouldn't be long before it came off again as it was rather old and worn. I cleaned it all up so it was silk smooth and clean and used a bit of belt to span the joint to make sure it wouldn't come away again
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This allowed it to move in the way its is supposed to but wont allow it to pop off again, unfortunately, when I tried to fit this the jubilee clip was too near the drive shaft and it was too tight.
I have to make something smaller that would not get in the way. I used a small length of cycle brake cable and silver soldered it to the metal outer, this was a neat job and kept clear of the drive shaft.
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when assembled it looked not too much of a bodge and I was happy with it. plenty of life left in it now!

The gear stick as you know finds its own spring to the centre ( left to right wise ) and forward to back I held in place with some card and tape, with all this locked in position I adjusted and attached the adjusters at the gearbox end, I let the gearbox find its own centres first against its detents, so I knew I had a relaxed neutral at the gearbox before I put the ends on. Carefully turned the ends until they gently slipped onto the arms, perfect

Time for a test run!
PERFECT! what a relief, with my new bush also this is like a new car to drive.

I have a couple of questions for the guys that have done the bush part before,,,, the little square thing that pops on ( can be seen it the top pic) inside the gear leaver assembly that locates in the side of the pivoting black arm, which way did you have the split line? ( there is a split in the moulding to allow it to open as it snaps on) because it is square it will go in two ways, one way is the original way and I can see the wear marks, or it can be spun 45deg to run on the other face. I thought I would spin mine as this reduced the movement in the joint as its a new unworn surface but if I am honest, its a little stiff! what did you guys do?

Next, on the gear leaver end the joint that is on the underside, is it supposed to have a split? I think it might as it allows it to pop on, I ask because it doesn't look like a factory split, more like a worn split, Any one?
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BTW the split pin that's holding my spring down ( pic above ) is because I smashed the reverse block off when levering the joint off DOH, I have been on to Daniel for one!


last thing, you think my cam belt is FU**ED? it was supposed to have a new one 6 months ago!!!?!?!?!?
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and is there supposed to be a cover on here??? what is the thread for?

Hoped you liked the pictures, we all love to see pictures!!

Frazer

 

there is so little room, its so important that there is no flex in the bush and i think that even with a repair being a good repair and almost as good as a new one with regard to flex, then hill one is even better still than standard one as as it has no flex at all. + its such a sweet job as you slide the Hill one on, it is sooooo well made, perfect product...