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  1. markarelius3

    markarelius3 Karting

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    I dont know if this has been posted before, however, I replaced my two cv boots on the PX side of the car along with the inboard CV joint and found a surprisingly "quick" way to do it without removing the half-shaft from the hub etc. 1) remove 6 bolts from inboard half-shaft where it attaches to tranny. 2) remove upper/lower A arm bolts (2 bolts). 3) with car jacked up and springs/struts fully extended, remove the bolt to shock/swaybar. 4) pull whole assembly out and rotate up. You can then swap out the two boots and the inboard CV joint without undoing anything else. You will still have the e brake line and caliper line attached so you will have to replace boots/joint next to car. However, it is very "quick". Thought it might help someone.
    Mark

    Note: If you need to replace the outboard CV JOINT (not the boot, you can do this with the above procedure) you must use the usual method.
    Also, SH Ferrari of Salt Lake does not sell joints- a new half shaft was $3000, SOOOOOO went to Porsche and boots were $18 a piece and could have ordered CV joint for $204. However, Autohaus in Arizona sold me the CV joint for $70. Total job cost <$100. Ferrari $3495 parts and labor.
     
  2. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Nice post!
     
  3. 355dreamer

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    Great post. Would this work for a 355 and a 348?
     
  4. ferrame

    ferrame Formula 3

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    Which Ferrari model did you work on?
    Thanks
     
  5. markarelius3

    markarelius3 Karting

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    Sorry, 1994 348 spider. I would assume it would also work on a 355, however, I THINK there might be clearance issues when pulling out the assembly if you leave the cats in with the heat shields.
     
  6. ernie

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    Outstanding Mark!!!

    You wouldn't happen to have the part numbers handy would you?
     
  7. UConn Husky

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    Fantastic contribution! throw in pics and part numbers and you'll be a hero :D This is one more thing I need to do while the engine is out....
     
  8. markarelius3

    markarelius3 Karting

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    Sorry, no pics...however part number for CV joint is 93033203400 at autohausaz.com. The boots were bought at Porsche dealership for a 78-83' 930.
     
  9. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    BRILLIANT! Thanks for the info!
     
  10. Aeroengineman

    Aeroengineman Formula Junior

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    Does this procedure affect rear wheel alignment?
     
  11. judd10

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    Thanks!

     
  12. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Nope.

    At least not on my 348 it doesn't
     
  13. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Fantastic Mark!! Thanks for sharing! :D:D

    Thats why you gotta LOVE the Brotherhood!! :eek::eek:
     
  14. Aeroengineman

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    While this thread was helpful to a great degree - Nobody has pointed out that the ball cup of the Porsche part is approximately 5/16" thicker than the Ferrari part and as such the Ferrari bolts are not long enough to sufficiently engage the hub on the transaxle sufficiently to keep from stripping out the first row of threads on the transaxle hub. My digital camera is in for repair or I would have taken a photo. One should not under estimate the acrobatics it takes to get the hub past the exhaust/txle housing and the frame. It took a good 15 minutes. What should have been mentioned to make the job simplier is the aero tray needs to be loostened and the rear fender well needs to be removed.

    Bottom line is the Porsche part will work but I need to find these very unique bolts 5/16" longer - not an easy task
     
  15. No Doubt

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    I don't get it. The rubber Porsche boot is stripping the steel Ferrari bolt threads? I'm having trouble visualizing this. Can you elaborate?
     
  16. tcannon

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    I think that he is saying that the rubber boot is so much thicker than the original that there is not much of the bolt threads making it into the female threads therefore putting alot of pressure on them. Now that is a thick boot. ;)
     
  17. Aeroengineman

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    #17 Aeroengineman, Aug 5, 2009
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    I bought the Ferrari boot kits, but the steel outer race of the Porsche CV joint is thicker (ie deeper). When I pushed the Ferrari bolt through only one or two threads show through the other side thus they grabbed one thread on the flange and tore it out.
    The rotating parts of the CV appear to be the same and the outer race is just thicker
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  18. tcannon

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    Ok, I see. What had confused me is that you were calling them rubber boots instead of CV joints. ;)
     
  19. No Doubt

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    OK! That I can see! Thanks. So with longer bolts the Porsche cv joint would work?! Cool. I wonder if the Porsche wheel hub bearing would work, too? Easier to get the Porsche replacement parts (might even be cheaper)...
     
  20. Aeroengineman

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    #20 Aeroengineman, Aug 7, 2009
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    I found some metric hex head cap screws with the exact spec for strength as the factory OEM with the correct shoulder protrusion from the CV to transfer the shear load to the transaxle flange but the threads were 5/8" too long. It cost almost $200 to buy the bolts (I also bought the tap and the die or this thread - thank god!) including the $20 bucks I paid the local machine shop to shorten the bolts. A word to the wise - if you are going to do this you should chase the threads in the flange with a tap for this thread spec because the threads get galled removing the factory bolts. You should also chase the threads on the new bolts though a die and leave the cutting oil on both the flange threads and the bolt threads so you are sure to have and easy installation with a predictable torque. The machine shop also lightly chamfered the little two hole clamp to accomodate for the fact that the hex cap screws have a radius from the cap to the shank. Picture is of shortened thread hex screw next to factory. After installation torqued initially to 50 then to 70 foot pounds, I treated the exposed threads at the back of the transaxle flange with high temp locktight.
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  21. Aeroengineman

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    Just in case any cares - the bolt spec I used was M10 x 125 x 80 SOC C/S Alloy
    their part number 100F800KCSZ
     
  22. No Doubt

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    #22 No Doubt, Aug 7, 2009
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    Nice work!




    *but which company owns that part number?!
     
  23. bobby355

    bobby355 Karting

    May 21, 2009
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    I've got a torn inner CV boot on my 355.

    Approximately how long of a job are we talking about to replace it?

    Is it something that the mechanically challeneged can accompolish themselves?

    Thanks.

    Bobby
     
  24. Aeroengineman

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    I have a lift and with two people working, one a good wrench (and its not me) plan on 4 hours per side not counting the errand to the bolt store and the machine shop if you decide to change the inner CVs too. The dealer gets paid 4 hours per side under warranty reimbursement. - Not a fun job but I had to do it myself because I just discovered it 5 days before I'm going to Monterrey
     
  25. Ricambi America

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    Bobby -

    It's just a big mess. Call one of your local shops (Competizione might be the closest to you) and let them handle it. For mechanically challenged, I'd say it's money-well-spent.
     

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