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  1. F1 Storm

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    I know some of the members here and therefore I am choosing to remain anonymous but everyone should know this!!! Apparently, Champion Motor Group is in bed with Seth Rose turning back mileage on cars. As you may all know, Seth Rose and Champion own Cat Express Car Transport and Exotics Rally and operate in the same building on Long Island. Seth’s old buddy decided to share this with me the other day. Seth even has a website called WWW.ODOMETERPRO.COM soliciting business. I couldn’t believe it…go on the web site and call the number that is listed, it’s Seth. He even went on to tell me how Ferrari of Long Island uses Seth’s services and got busted by the customer (…pesci he thinks the name is) when FoLI sold him a clocked Lambo. Pesci made FoLI buy the car back at full pop; Manhattan Motorcars discovered the discrepancy when Pesci had the Lambo at their place for service. Seth and Champion go around having these rallies and clocking the cars afterward…lol….PATHETIC!!! We have to worry about dirt like these guys turning back the mileage now. Things are bad enough out there…now we need to worry about buying a car that reads 2000 miles on it, but actually has 15000!!! then getting stuck with a repair bill from hell!!!! These guys are dirty low lifes…the whole lot of them. Word to the wise…1. these guys will get busted sooner or later, so keep your nose clean and clear of them…2. when buying a car, do your best to have it looked at by a reputable experienced dealer….
     
  2. 308 milano

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    full of good intention, but I think you just brought on a law suit for slander. Delete your post asap and let the authorities handle this.
     
  3. f308jack

    f308jack F1 Rookie

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    What if he can back it up?
     
  4. wetpet

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    can someone tell me how it is possible to successfully "turn back" a modern odometer? I mean short of replacing it, isn't it near impossible to do? then you have all those pesky records. and all to turn back an odo 10k. doesn't seem to make sense or even be possible.
     
  5. wetpet

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    wow, just read their website. Some people will do anything for money. Seems they are side stepping the law by not re-installing the Odo themselves. They just tamper with it and give it back to the "client".
     
  6. sparta49

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    So are you saying that Ferrari of Long Island knowing sold a car that had the mileage rolled back ?????
     
  7. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Apparently it can be done easily on a 360 according to a dealer guy I spoke with a while back. So I'm assuming on pretty much anything else too. He cautioned that when buying everything else really needs to jive with the mileage i.e. seat wear, interior condition, tire condition, extent of road rash, respray etc.

    If these guy's are pulling the odo and rolling them back and then "handing" it back then they have customer records. Enough complaints and the authorities will get a hold of their records and coming knocking. As the OP said watch out.
     
  8. writerguy

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    odo fine



    What about the CPU and OBD info? Unless they are reflashing the onboard computer on a modern car they are just pizzzin in the wind
     
  9. GlobalLambo

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    #9 GlobalLambo, Aug 5, 2009
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    I am going to respond once and not keep this banter going on my end. I am not looking to have an internet fight, mudslinging competition, or trial.

    Yes I own Exotics Rally, CAT Express, and yes I own www.odometerpro.com All companies are solely owned by me. I do NOT work for Champion Motor Group, I am NOT on their payroll. I do NOT sell cars except my own when I am tired of them.

    The odometer business is completely legal. It is NOT against the law to adjust the reading on an odometer. Every single odometer that has ever been adjusted by my company has signed and notarized authorization on file. It is the responsibility of the owner of that vehicle to disclose any repairs or calibration that has been performed. I cannot control the actions of the end user. There are many different reasons for this service, some of them being, theft, accidents, electrical shorts, oversized or undersized wheels/tires.

    As far as the allegations, they are COMPLETELY FALSE. Furthermore, I have NEVER and will NEVER perform any work for a dealership. I do NOT work any longer in the same building as Champion Motor Group, there was a time when I did and I moved out about 2 months ago. I have never even stepped foot in or spoken to anyone at Ferrari of Long Island, that is false. I removed my phone number from my website this morning due to annoying phone calls - since "F1 Storm" which is an alias and is hiding decided to post this on about 4 or 5 websites.

    Thank you for taking the time to read my post.
     
  10. The Ape

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    Somethings rotten in Denmark.
     
  11. writerguy

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    and i just got the kernel's of popcorn out of my teeth from finding a salvage exotic....
     
  12. Fred2

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    It's like, man, this stuff is for smoking tobacco, man. You mean that some dudes use it for Pot? Man that's far out.
     
  13. Simon^2

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    Funny how you avoid mentioning the most obvious reason...
     
  14. wetpet

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    I sell bongs. But you must sign a release that you will not smoke pot in it. www.wetpetbongs.com
     
  15. barcheta

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  16. F1 Storm

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    FoLI KNEW!!...when the customer (Pesci) confronted FoLI (G. Mercuri and owner) they put their tail between their legs and bought back the car...and promised Pesci a California to keep quite about it...anyone that knows the customer and Manhattan Motor Cars could check for themselves...hey...let's be realistic, we all know how honest Hayim and company are....
     
  17. F1 Storm

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    Okay...let's see:
    "i did not have sex with that woman" or "i did not inhale" No sorry the real winner is Mr. Rose...."The odometer business is completely legal. It is NOT against the law to adjust the reading on an odometer." LMAO.....Love to buy a car from one of his customers...hey everybody...lets forget about carfax, lets just contact these guys to get an odometer report....
     
  18. teak360

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    It's not slander if it's true.
     
  19. 308 milano

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    not saying it isn't true, don't know, and I'm not a lawyer either, just think he's sticking his neck waaay out there.
     
  20. GrigioGuy

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    Whomever F1 Storm is, he or she is a coward.

    I have no affiliation with anyone involved with this, but an anonymous attack is a sign of fear. Man up, since you're calling out someone who -is- identifiable.
     
  21. Blue@Heart

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  22. agup48

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  23. frefan

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    tick-tick-tick...
     
  24. rmk

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    The same thread was also posted over on LPower

    Pass me some popcorn...
     
  25. AMA328

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    Couple thought off the top of my clue-less-mind here, pls CLUE ME IN, in regards to the odometer biz:

    * what OTHER reason would there be for turning back an odometer than to deceive someone on the reading?

    * IF this guy ain't breaking 'any laws', then I'd like to know what percentage of his clocked odometers have the mileage turned FORWARD...a new odometer would require the mileage to be turned forward, but here we're talking about used stuff...
     

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