Blk/red Enzo selling at Monterey

Don't know, but I didn't look more closely after an initial look showed it to be so shabby.

 

Jim, the black car (formerly red) is and has always been a US-spec car. After being crashed and repainted, it bounced around and went overseas before finally coming back here. But it's a US-spec car.

 

Thanks that makes sense. Was it repaired by the Factory? Is this the car that was crashed by Dietrich?

 

This Enzo was originally red with red interior, a USA specification Enzo.

The previous USA owner will not mind me setting the record straight on it, with details as they were related and shown to me:

3 years ago, the car was being serviced at Penske Las Vegas out of his Las Vegas home. He happened to be at his other Santa Monica California home. He calls up his buddy in LV and says "hey will you mind driving my Enzo over to SM so we can use it for the weekend?". Or words to that effect. After about half-a-second to deliberate whether he had the time to afford his friend such a favor, he says "Sure". Or words to that effect.

The buddy (whom we shall hereinafter simply refer to as such) picks up the car from Penske, and takes off for California. According the buddy, a light rain had begun to fall (roll eyes here please, its Vegas). Not 15 mins away from Penske, the car leaves the road and scrapes the Armco. Penske get a call and sends out the tow truck post haste. The owner gets a call in Santa Monica, and after a few choice words asks "is it bad?". Or words to that effect. The buddy explains that he throttled into a bend and the car simply over-steered off the road, coming to rest on the Armco, and the only real damage is to the under tray. Fortunately for the buddy, when the car arrives at Penske LV's Ferrari body shop, the report shows that the only part that needs to be replaced is the front section of the car's under tray. They will repair the passenger side bodywork where it made contact with the Armco, and insist on repainting the car. The owner says "cool, whatever". Or words to that effect.

A month or two goes by and the owner gets a call from the body shop stating that rather than just paint the passenger side, they might as well paint the whole car, so everything matches etc etc. The owner says OK, but asks if he could therefore do it in another color. The body shop states that they can do it in the color of his girlfriend's bra if he likes. The owner says OK "lets go with black". Or words to that effect. The body shop confirms that the next time he sees his red Enzo, it will in fact be black.

Body work progresses, under tray arrives from Maranello, invoices fly.

Ive seen the invoices personally, by the way.

By the time all is said and done, expenses for the parts, materials and labor for the complete color change to one Ferrari Enzo are around $85,000 if memory serves, but that also included a major service at Penske (I seem to remember it cost Miles Collier $90,000 to re-paint his Mac Laren F1).

The owner then drove the car in Southern California for a couple of years, and 2 years ago asked me to find a new home for it. I did and it went to a party in Europe, to be driven. Which explains its current condition, no surprise to me, and the car looks VERY different from the last time I saw it a year-and-a-half ago.

Dan is 100% correct, I would have grabbed the $850k with both hands. But, Dan bear in mind most Enzos you see have really awkward panel gaps. This car is a "drivers" car that's got a lot of miles and should simply be used in rallies etc.

Bear in mind too that I no longer have any affiliation with this vehicle nor its current connections.

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Ah.

That explains the 2.5% Customs due on a US spec. car.

 

Is this the same red Enzo that Premier Motorcars had and sold?

 

Joe: does the Enzo repainted in something other than it's factory color suffer pricewise at resale time? Or just the current relatively poor condition of this car noted by others. Not having Enzo serial numbers handy; is this a different black/red Enzo than the one you were finding a new home for some months ago?
CH

 

I think it was.

 

That was another black/red and it found a nice home in the Rockies.

High miles, poor condition, and color-change all affect resale value.

 

Thanks Joe! Good advice to remember, if you really want the sale to be completed.
CH

 

Joe, how about some high resolution versions of those bad boys...?!? [email protected]

Laguna Niguel...? You're right down the road from me!

 

You're welcome to anything off my site, but that's the best I have without going to the archives.

Yes, maybe I will drive one of my cars (that I supposedly never drive) to Cars & Coffee and would love to meet you one of these days...

 

There's only one picture of 131631 on your site - unless I'm not looking in the right place.

Why not come out this weekend...? Make a few calls and bring that black Enzo! I can't buy it, but I can give you a down payment (...of $200).

 

Go to the Galleria section.

There are 24 pretty high-res images of it there...

 

It was $70,000, per the figure he mentioned in an SCM article he wrote about his McLaren F1.

Loved the Enzo photos. Saw this car at Motor-4-Toys in 2007, and visually it was only topped by a silver Enzo I had seen previously. The Rosso Dino one of GB was a close third.

>8^)
ER

 

Oops, its been a long week...

 

The original owner of this car (not the owner who had it at Penske) had it quite a long time, used it a lot. Had a McLaren as well, bought/federalized new (Silver, repainted red). Sold both. Had miles but was very well maintained.
Car when red was very nice, good panel fit, only mark on it was small 2" scuff on rear fender (repaired) put on it by a grandchild taking it to prom. If the panels weren't right, it happened after it left his ownership. His cars are quite nicely maintained.
The panels were quite good as was undertray.
00Joe, what about the Enzo valvespring issue? Care to enlighten us? Relevant history on the handful of cars that have had issues. Factory has an interesting fix.

BTW, they are all driver's cars. There you go dissing driven cars again. Must be more fun for you than driving yours, it seems. Keep saving them for the rest of us who drive them.

 

Yes - quite the combo it was.

>8^)
ER
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Some more photos I had of this Enzo in original paint. Panel fitment looks good to me, but I am no expert.

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Thanks Erik.

Carty B's Supercar exploits are well-documented, and well known. His fascination for the latest and the greatest dates back to the fall of 1974, when he took delivery of the first Lamborghini Countach in America, chassis number 1120036.

 

If you can take delivery at MSRP and then still sell later for a premium price it would be foolish not to enjoy the car.
CH

 

Almost everyone in the Ferrari world knows the original owner of this car Carty B, and the associated story. Old news.
Panels & under tray were quite good when he owned it. So? They weren't after "The Buddy" drove it that day.
Since you state the factory have an "interesting fix" for the valve springs, why not state it? Making a statement like that and not completing is like... well, you know what its like ;-)
Also, you expect me to list the chassis numbers of all the Enzos which have had problems? Proprietary information my freind.
Nowhere have I dissed driven cars. Get over your insecurities, I probably do more Ferrari driving than most Ferrari owners, and that's a fact. Not my fault I seem to stumble across low-mileage examples - I make it my business.

 

I didn't ask for VIN's. I said there were a handful of cars.
You show little respect for Mr. B, unsurprisingly.
I clarified the panels were fine earlier. Nothing else.
Since everyone knows the story of this particular car, you should know the fix. State it. If you don't know, let us know, so I can tell something "that everyone in the Ferrari world" doesn't know.
You never hesitate to bloviate about all you know, so here's your chance-finish my statement about the fix.
I'm happy to share it, but you're the font of all knowledge, it seems. Go for it, baby.

 

I'm not taking sides here, gentlemen, but unless you guys know something that I don't, or I have my information mixed up, Ronnie D. in New York was the original owner of this car. He sold it two months later, through FoLI, to Mr. Beal.


But are you guys holding out on me...? Proprietary serial number lists and valve spring fixes and whatnot - hook a brother up!