USA F40 20th Anniversary, meet in Monterey in 2010

Look forward to discussing things with you Frank, appreciate your interest and support of the idea.

 

Good luck with this

With a team like Dan, Jas, and Kuzi this should go down well

will do my best to attend!

 

Jas - There will obviously be alot of interest generated around a gathering of this nature. The F40 is arguably Ferrari's most popular supercar and as the list grows I expect a number of parties to express interest. It would be nice to be able to attend a few events since a number of owners will be coming a long way.

One of the things that has always mystified me with this weekend is why the event promoters all focus mainly on a single weekend. There are so many events going on at one time that it's literally impossible to attend everything. Monterey should be a week long affair similar to the SEMA Show or any major convention. It's a car enthusiast's dream to be able to attend Concorso, Pebble, the Historics, the in town Carmel street gathering, the auctions, etc. but it's not realistic to attend them all in three days. Wasn't there another event at Black Horse as well? La Dolce Vita? Khaki's on Saturday afternoon has always been a favorite small gathering of mine. All Ferraris.

The point is that there is alot to choose from and it's too bad we won't be able to attend them all. But we should at least try to display our cars at more than one venue on one day. I think the idea of a centralized hotel for all of us is excellent. The logisitcs (not to mention the security factor and sheer attraction) of having all the F40s together would be ideal.

Let me know when you're ready for some logisitcal assistance. I'd be happy to help.

 

Rob

I agree! Thats why I chose this Fourm!

Dan

 

thanks Rob. Most of the participants in this thread are subscribed to fchat. Many of the owners know each other personally and of the 21 or so thus far committed, almost half have come offline.

I appreciate the fact that this thread exists...thank you.

As far as sponsorship needs, that time is in the near future. Right now, we are focusing on securing the best possible venue to display the cars, to enable the most number of enthusiasts/public to enjoy them. It would be a shame imho to have a large number of F40's in one spot, but not have accessibility to all that wish to see them.

 

Jeffrey, great ideas all of them. I agree on a centralized hotel and preliminary inquires about block rooms started yesterday. Also, I couldn't agree more that the public would enjoy seeing them all together at different venues...we should look at that.

A group email will go out to all committed F40 owners this week so as to include those not on fchat in all communications. Everyone's input will be sought so as to effect best possible display and time for all involved...both those bringing the rides and the viewing public there to enjoy them. Its going to be fantastic Personally, I'd like to see an organized drive through the scenic roads...a track event (parade laps, unless Wes is in the lead....), display at a venue where anyone can see them all together....and any other ideas that come up and can be incorporated. Since my only interest is to make this the best event possible, any and all ideas are on the table.

 

Rob - I believe everyone appreciates the importance that Fchat plays in organizing events of this nature. Fchat is undoubtedly one of the premier sites of its kind. That being said I think it would be a stretch to consider calling this event a Ferrarichat event. If the origin of all gatherings herein warranted such an alliance then all of the events on Fchat would be Ferrarichat events.

At this junture I believe the organization of such an event should not be aligned with any single entity. It is a gathering of owner enthusiasts. It's is not a Meguire's F40 gathering or a Ferrarichat F40 gathering. It's a gathering to celebrate the 20th anniversary of U.S. spec F40s. I think Ferrarichat (along with others) might warrant some recognition at some point based on some level of participation but beyond that I think it's too self serving for anyone to believe that their name should be part of the event name.

Again I'm not trying to discount the importance of Ferrarichat but I also don't think the organization of the event through your medium warrants Fchat's name being included in the event name. This is - after all - a forum where participation, gatherings, and information is intended to flow and be exchanged freely.

 

Jeffrey

Once again I'm going have to disagree with you. I think FCHAT has actually put a lot of us together. I also think that all of us owe something to Rob for that. In addition I think that this thread should be included as a link to all press releases to the event much in the same way I felt that Ferrari Chat should have been linked to Pininfarina's Web Site in the P 4/5 section and as an aside Andrea felt the same way and linked the P 4/5 thread to his web site before I even had to ask him to. There are some things that are simply the right thing to do.

Cheers

 

I have a friend who organized such an event in LA in 2007, and I'll discuss some of these things with him this week, and get you his contact info... he's exceptionally good at putting on these events... organizing for 150+ cars, 250+ people, a big cruise, track day, catering, insurance... etc. etc. has it's headaches. Rather than repeat any of his initial mistakes, we can definitely act on his information.

 

Rob, how did you infer that ? I mean really, thats a heck of a stretch. Your second post after bringing up making shirts was the post quoted by Jeffrey above. You specifically asked for ferrarichat to be included in the event name....a bit forward I must say.

Once again, most of the board participants in this discussion are subscribed to fchat...we already support this board, and happily. If you are somehow suggesting that ferrarichat advertising is contingent to a continued discussion here, let us know.

 

Spot on.

 

I feel a bit strange about "not" including Ferrarichat.com in some way in the festivities of this F40 event. If not for Rob's forum, I would not even know some of the distinguished owners of this magnificent Ferrari such as RufMD, DM1, Jeffrey and many others I've had the pleasure of speaking with in various formats. In fact if not for this forum, I highly doubt I'd even be an F40 owner. I don't think I"m the only individual that is feeling this way. Lets everyone take a deep breath and think it through just a touch more. And try to take everyones sensibilities into consideration. Just my thoughts.

 

Firstly, I had no intention whatsoever of taking sponsorship monies from Rob, didn't even think about that and don't intend to. Fchat was always going to be acknowledged in the festivities, but as I have posted repeatedly, we haven't even thought about how just yet. Right now, the focus is a venue and the track. I can tell you it won't be in the title of the event, but we won't forget you Rob, sleep easy.

This is an F40 event, plain and simple. Its about the getting the cars together and putting on a show to commemorate 20 years of the USA F40. If anyone is interested in supporting it for that reason alone, welcome aboard.

I'm not interested in turning this into a drama fest.

 

What its all about.

 

Jim - If you read the intro portion of my post I do clearly acknowledge the importance of Fchat. I was merely commenting on Rob's indication to include Ferrarichat in the named event implying something along the lines of "Ferrarichat's F40 Gathering." Unless I was reading incorrectly that was the implication.

In no way did I infer that Ferrarichat should not be a participant in some way nor did I infer that Ferrarichat has some diminished value in helping bring the owners together and helping make this a potentially spectacular event. I was merely commenting on the implication of it being a "named event" with Fchat in the name (as Rob indicated in his post). Nothing less and nothing more.

You're comments as well as the comments of others are 100% correct. Fchat has been an integral part of our lives and has made invaluable contributions to all of us in some shape or form. In the same sense we have all contributed to making Fchat as popular as it is today by our participation. Without us - the members - Fchat would be just another car site.

All in all we are here to help one another and to respect our individual roles. As Jas has clearly indicated this is a celebration of one of Ferrari's great supercars. It's not about any one individual, company, organization or entity. How and when others will be included will undoubtedly surface at some point down the road. Let's maintain our course and focus on what's important right now.

 

well said RufMD
event focus is the glorious F40
i cannot get why all the drama...

countach and GTO reunion were both put toegether smoothly
while the F40 event (for a car that is likely the most beloved Ferrari of last 30 years! imo) seems to drag useless complaints and problems

i really hope to see it done with a lot of pics of all the beasts toegether

 

Tell me where I have discredited Fchat ?

I was asked to help organize, I am happy to do so without commercial interest whatsoever.

"Jas Commercial F40 Gathering" ? too funny....the participating owners know the story and you are way off base.

 

i need to buy an f40 so i can join you guys lol


sounds like an awesome idea. goodluck with the planning

 

Let's all cool our twin-turbos for a minute.

I get the sense that some people have some concerns, but I'd be lying if I said I clearly understood what they are. May I be so bold as to make a suggestion based on my past experiences?

If anyone on this thread has a concern, then I suggest we all follow the rule that I've applied to every business I've managed: If anyone had an issue, complaint, or concern that they want to bring to my attention, they need to do two things: 1) clearly state the specific concern, and 2) state EXACTLY what they would want as a resolution.

As an observer of this circumstance, I don't have a good handling on anyone's #1, and I have no clue what anyone would like to see for #2.

It would be really helpful if anyone who has a concern could state it specifically, and then state what they would like to see happen to resolve it. I'll go first:

CONCERN: I have a concern that what SHOULD be a simple, fun, and casual get-together of Ferrari F40 owners is turning into situation that is more complicated than it should be, and appears to be hurting feelings and damaging pride, and is becoming less fun.

POSSIBLE RESOLUTION: To resolve this, I would like to see two things: 1) public discussion of this event stop temporarily, and 2) discussion by those who are organizing it to take place somewhere private until enough details are sorted out to present them publicly, at which point public discussion can resume.