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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. joe sackey

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    Yes.

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  2. 2NA

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    This looks like a masterful piece of work and just what the doctor ordered.
     
  3. xs10shl

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    Looks like it's only installable on non A/C cars as presented (although I suspect one could find room for the oil reservoir in another location). Nevertheless, a nice bit of kit!
     
  4. garybobileff

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    The a/c components sit on the opposite side of the motor. Fitting the dry sump on the right side is not a problem, but, as Joe mentioned earlier, there were some factory dry sump units that did not work, because of improper design. I know first handedly,as I personally tried one of the improperly engineered Factory units before, with less than perfect results. Weaver makes a nice product, it should work flawlessly. I still have a Miura dry sump tank in stock that brings back BAD memories!
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  5. joe sackey

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    Gary:

    The problem with the Weaver Bros system is that it requires modification of existing components to adapt their pump. I have heard of issues there too. Perhaps Scott has finally developed a flawless bolt-on system.

    Time & testing will tell.
     
  6. big.bryant

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    Anyone know why that setup isn't (to my knowledge) being used today? It sounds like it is rather reliable and do able, can anyone weigh the pros and cons of the single oil reservoir vs. the seperate ones like today?

    Thanks!
     
  7. joe sackey

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    #6507 joe sackey, Aug 31, 2009
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    The pros of the split sump is the obvious benefit of preventing contamination from the gearbox entering the oil stream of the main block (!). The pros of the single sump are that the gearbox warms quicker (IMO).

    Here is a nice single sump P400S in Carmel recently... by AMDavidson
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  8. Olivier NAMECHE

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    In Carmel... it seems to still have french license plates....ending by 75 so from Paris...
     
  9. joe sackey

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    Yes, those are French plates, although I do not know if they were originally for this Miura.
     
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  11. xs10shl

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    My A/C condenser and air filter sits forward of the passenger-side rear wheel well, so I suppose it wouldn't be an option for me. Was this not the typical mounting location for these items? Perhaps mine was altered at some point?
     
  12. garybobileff

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    You are correct on the dryer and the condenser sitting on the right side. That was standard from the Factory. My error for not clarifying, as I was referring to the a/c compressor and drive and brackets on the left side.
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  13. Diablo_4_Ever

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    Where did you find it, that's a Dutch poster
     
  14. P400

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    #6514 P400, Sep 1, 2009
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    Here is a picture to clarify AC equipment at right wheel well. Photo not the best, but certainly better than a few hundred words.

    Trivia - What is the purpose of the two exposed hex bolts? Gary please dont answer this as you will know.

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  15. xs10shl

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    Nice pic - could have been less helpful if it turned out there was a discrepancy in location, as that is in fact a picture of my A/C unit. hehe. Looking into bolts - may be leftovers from something else.
     
  16. garybobileff

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    As per instructions, I am NOT answering this, as I do know!
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    #6517 2NA, Sep 1, 2009
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    Okay, I'll bite, ultra rare dual bolt option (only on select late SVs). ;)

    I'm not familiar with anything "original" that needs bolting there.
     
  18. alberto

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    I know, I know: special option to bust your knuckles as you are trying to remove the oil filter housing or water pump or other work.

    How'd I do?

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  19. joe sackey

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    There is an English version too that I have rolled up somewhere. I saw this one on Flickr.
     
  20. big ease

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    So you can tell the boy cars from the girl cars
     
  21. 2NA

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    Post of the week! :D
     
  22. MiuraP400

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    LOL.... Clearly the correct answer.
     
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    #6523 P400, Sep 2, 2009
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    alberto, you own and operate the prototype (kinda) of this legally required (at an earlier era) equipment!

    It is is possible the attached picture will partially answer the question of these randomly placed extra fasteners on many Miura. The vapor recovery system is not felt to be a beauty spot on the Miura and has been removed from those who have found an original cast chamber.
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    #6524 joe sackey, Sep 2, 2009
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    I say if it left the factory that way, leave it there.

    Transparent air-box tops, anyone?
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    #6525 2NA, Sep 2, 2009
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    Looks like #4109. The car had a few "custom" features like chromed air boxes, header tank and upper struts, also a few odd aftermarket doodads that came off and went in the trash. The plexiglas tops are decades old. I'm on the lookout for a pair of correct original ones.

    The owner stopped by yesterday, completely thrilled with the car and looking forward to "Cars and Coffee" on Saturday. :D
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