Maserati 300S?

Wolfi how does the 300S compare to the 200S?
Erik

 

Is this 3077? I found this old ad in Autoweek, February 8, 1969.
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Mr Hunt,Melbourne Aust.
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Yep, thats #3077! A very original car! Today owned by the SIMEONE FOUNDATION in Philadelphia, USA.

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Walter

 

The 200S is easier to drive and lighter than the 300S!

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Walter

 

I was rather dissapointed about that car! I never saw before such over-restored example of a 300S than this car! This 300S is virtually dead and had lost its aura completly!

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Walter

 

This is a very nice photo
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Check out these YouTube videos and see a very well done recreation done in Argentina. Join me in November in Argentina, bring your check book and go for a test drive.
They do amazing work.
Ciao,
FGM


CGT 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRY612PuamU&fmt=18

CGT 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_zMuqKoBM&fmt=18

CGT 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UExhhxn0qEA&fmt=18

 

...eh? "well done recreation"? Hi Frank,
sorry, but I don`t agree with you on this point!


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Walter

 

Gee what a surprise.. Walter disagrees. For the price Walter you MUST agree.
Say it, I AGREE. Come on Walter say it. You can do it.

On the serious side will you be in Italy anytime between the 18th of Sept and the 9th
of Oct?
If so, plan to join me for a coffee.
Ciao,
FGM
PS
Just saw the Brad Pitt movie Glorious Bastards and thought it was very well done. Very suspenseful and gory. It is probably banned in Germany but good movie non the less

 

No, still do not agree! Even to this price......! NoNoNo!!!

Something about Mr. Tarrantino`s new movie:
nuttin`like this Comic-movie will be banned in The Fatherland! Why should we? As Tarrantono mentioned in an interview: "It has nothing to do what really happened!"

Back to cars:
I am in Bella Italia in the 2nd half of October.

Ciao!
Walter ("...call me Brad!")

 

Ditto. The prominent "Maserati" badges, especially on a somewhat agricultural-looking pushrod six, really induce nausea.

Why not just badge the car honestly as a "Reklus" ? It could then be respected as a well-built homage, rather than summarily rejected as a pretentious fake.

 

Why not just badge the car honestly as a "Reklus" ? It could then be respected as a well-built homage, rather than summarily rejected as a pretentious fake.[/QUOTE]

If your point is to be taken seriously, then why not badge the MC12 as the re-bodied F car Enzo that it is. Check out those MC12 Cam covers? Please tell me what engine lies beneath them?

Disclaimer: I am by no means endorsing any replica as an original, simply appreciating it for what it is, and the fact that a group of gear headed guys are pursuing their passion of building cars in the way the Modena guys did in the 40's and 50's to me is commendable. This is much more of an art than a business.
Ciao,
FGM

 

One important distinction is that the makers of the MC12 have full legal rights to utilize the Maserati name. Badge-engineering and parts swapping within corporate groups is of course nothing new.

Certainly agree with you that we should appreciate 'a group of gear-headed guys pursuing their passion'. But shouldn't they be proud enough of their work to put their own name on it ? It would still go just as fast and make the same sounds.

I just don't see any honorable or meritorious justification for misappropriating a name that took others years of struggle to build and sustain.

 

If your point is to be taken seriously, then why not badge the MC12 as the re-bodied F car Enzo that it is. Check out those MC12 Cam covers? Please tell me what engine lies beneath them?

[/QUOTE]Frank,
Yes, the MC12 is "based" on the Enzo.
BUT: the Ferrari-motor is chain-driven while the MC12-unit is much more advanced gear-driven. Also the suspension and steering is different to that of the Ferrari.

All this modifications are made by the factory rather than by some people who want a"look-a-like"

I am sick of all this "hommages" or "fake-a-do`s" that have nothing, absolutley nothing in common with the real thing.

Don`t get me wrong: I have nothing against a replica - as long as its viaually and technically 100% correct.

As with the 300S: replica engine, gearbox - almost all components are available in Europe but for a price!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Looks like great workmanship and to some extent beautiful detail.

I agree with earlier comments about the agricultural engine; if you don't want to fork out for something proper, at least find a somewaht closer match (I say this very loosely)

The badges, however, need to go. As beautiful as the car is, they make the whole thing unpalettable.

What's the price of one of these less engine/gearbox?

 

better off doing a 200s and putting a period Alfa twin cam in it.

 

Wy not using an old 3500 GT-engine with carbs in a Replica-300S? But best is to by an FIA-sanctioned Cyril Emby-engine that matches all the original specs! Yes, costly! And Maserati GT-car owner are mostly known for trying to get everything ...cheap!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Walter,

Where I live making money is much more difficult than burning it, maybe it is different for you? The old machines we love so much were already rather costly to operate when they were new, and they didn't become more economical over time. Buying wise is, in my book, good practice, regardless of it being parts or complete cars. Cheap? By no means.

Apart from that, a replica like this won't fool anyone, and trying to create it to do so would be wrong, so why fit the "proper" engine? It is what it is, a replica, but quite a striking one, with beautiful attention to details that count. Independent of what it lent its' form from, we could probably all agree on it being a beautiful car.
The let-down is the tractor engine. Of course it can be made to perform reasonably well, but it remains an agricultural piece. Even a Merc twin-cam with the star taken off the valve-covers would look better! (Or is it laid out the wrong way 'round) Just an example.

 

Sorry, don`t agree!
Then call it a Mercedes-Tractor-car!

Even the steering wheel of this "300S-something" from Argentina is on the wrong side! Thats about "beautiful attention to details".....!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Aussie 300s
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Both photos: #3059

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Walter

 

Did someone mention an Alfa engine? Please forgive the shameless plug for my Argentine Car Guy Tour Nov 7 -17 www.carguytour.com. Where you will see these kinds of cars.
Here we have a fun little all aluminum racing car built in Buenos Aires with Alfa drive train. this car was very tempting and very inexpensive.

Walter misses the point. These cars should be judged on their own merit and not compared to the original from which the inspiration came from. They are not trying to be an original only a fun alternative to the multi million dollar racing cars owned by very few.

On a plane ride to London a hour ago I was told about the recreation of two $450,000 engines for two world class Aston Martins. The owners wanted to race the recreated engine while the original was kept safe on a stand. Makes sense to me and yes, I see a trend.
Well off to catch the 14:50 flight to Milan Malpensa then onto modena.
All photos by FGM in jan 2008
Ciao,
FGM
My 2 Lira
FGM
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Walter, wrong!
photo 1 Whiteford
photo 2 Jane.

 

Bob Jane.
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