A great track with lots of laps found on youtube, but this is surely one of the best... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRqkHB4H7xE&feature=related
Couldn't watch more than about 10 seconds of that. Holding the camera while steering at the same time, narrated by an apparently drunk and unfunny retard. On a wet track. Brilliant. a couple 'ring videos I've made 'Ring of Fire http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2221257423351405110&ei=KJa7SqKzEsG8lQfxhdjnBg&q=edelbach# Smart Roadster http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8252571630183295037&ei=C5S7SpOqNcrslAeLxfXZBg&q=edelbach# Opel Speedster http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2221257423351405110&ei=KJa7SqKzEsG8lQfxhdjnBg&q=edelbach#docid=-8475562542374473035 RingBeetle: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6780306496756382446&ei=lZa7Stpk0O-VB5q9xeYG&q=edelbach+beetle# <embed id=VideoPlayback src=http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-2221257423351405110&hl=en&fs=true style=width:400px;height:326px allowFullScreen=true allowScriptAccess=always type=application/x-shockwave-flash> </embed>
I had seen a video with one of the seasoned driving coaches, she took a van around the track and the time was unbeleiveable for such a t*rd vehicle. Great car control, and some guts going by some unsuspecting drivers in a van! It might have been a Top Gear segment/You tube?
nope, tried again and still doesn't work. Maybe with subtitles and a couple pints me-self... And for the record, Monty Python kills me so I'm not totally immune to British humor. Surtees AND Jones?! Nice! What type of car did they drive you round in? You were there not long after my father's first trip: http://www.tcnj.edu/~edelbach/ring67/ring-67.htm I've had a couple quick passenger laps myself. Several nearly as fast as '67 F1 cars were capable of... when I'm driving ~150 hp in a light car is plenty Sabine is truly a wonder. I've never had the honor of riding along with her (was her day off for my Ring Taxi ride), but we've spoken a few times, and she gave me a nice smile and wave while instructing this fat, surly bloke in a Jag Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
John had a permanent loaner from Mercedes on which they would try different things, particularly suspension, anti-dive, stuff like that. In the mid 70s that was a 450SLC, a pretty quick ride back then in their hands. In the early 70s, there for a F3 race, we spent a few days DESTROYING rental cars, they were lucky to make it back to the depot! My driver then was Tony Brise, he had taken his TR6 to drive, he introduced my to the Karoussel my first time ever around there. Another team , sports car driver Malcolm Guthrie, had a VW Beetle, it was hot so after one lap they removed all the windows. In a time when irreverance could be acceptable and funny. don't get me wrong, I love laps by Sabine, Stuck and co. I love some YouTube clips of IoM laps by a quality rider too.
Great stuff. I can imagine a 450SLC being quite fast, and comfortable around the Nordschleife. All of my ~250 laps were in rental cars, but I always treated them pretty kindly except for the tires of course. Lately the rental agencies have been known to enlist spies. The story goes they pay a bounty for photos of their cars on the track, then tack on massive fees for brakes, tires, engines etc when they are returned, followed by a sternly worded letter to please don't ever bother trying to rent from them again. Most of these letters end up framed in the driver's home... The beetle was a joke after the rental agency offered me either that or some kind of SUV. Ended up having some of my must fun laps ever giving riders to vairous friends. We overtook a number of shockingly more capable machines out there... One of my friends lives 5 minutes away from the track (hence his knickname). As a post on a long-dead chat-board his wrote the following about a 'race' he had with family one christmas. I don't think he'd mind it being reposted here: Sir Bastard's Christmas Race Be warned, reasonably long, but fun Last night, I was thinking of the „good old days“, when men where men and Jocke was...well Jocke I suppose ;-) Anyway, if you have ten minutes and fancy a chuckle, then let me tell you a story, it’s even somewhat „on topic“.. ;-) Back in the mid to late eighties (I guess), my parents used to love to have a family get together at Christmas for a jolly good argument, people of all shapes and sizes would come to our house and stay for as long as they could before my Dad lost patience and started looking for a club hammer or some such instrument. One particular Christmas *us men*, decided that it would be a good idea to have a race on the Nordschleife! A plan was hatched over a few Barrels during the evening and we were secretly looking forward to the next day, ie. Boxing Day. The next morning arrives, we are all having breakfast, someone has even given Granny a roll to suck on, my Dad states that he’s just got to go and fill the car with petrol in Barweiler, my uncle Lucky (dads brother) also has to fill his car up, my cousin Nick needs to put his car through the car wash, and I tag along because I need to buy some ***s and watch my cousin use the car wash. Whilst the wives, girlfreinds, mothers and aunties are all looking confused and are desperately trying to work out whats going on, the men are already starting their engines and are off, out of the village, straight up the hill, past the petrol station and turning in to the start for a GP/NS lap at the end of December, with snow on the ground.. ;-) The main event. Dad - 300 E Mercedes (tastefully lowered) Me - XR3i (White, real Gay Boys Car) Lucky – Old Granada estate Nick – Renault 21 Turbo We drive up to the freezing cold, 300 year old Gentleman at the start, „Good Morning Fritz, hows the track?“ „It’s a bit icy in places“, „oh ok, four tickets please“. Fritz sells us the tickets and waits while we are allowed to LINE THE CARS UP NEXT TO EACH OTHER for the start!!!! So, here we are then, right, I look across at Dad, he has a knowing grin on his face, I look across at Lucky, is he dribbling? I look at my cousin Nick, he looks very determined, he casts me a glance, sticks up two fingers and floors it ;-) Luckily, as the cars were so varied, we did’nt all arrive at T4 at the same time and were therefore able to thunder down towards the Südkehre, this is as good as it gets, an empty track and racing your relatives! Up to the Bitburger Kurve and Dad is going like the clappers, then me, Nick right on my tail and lastly Lucky who appears to have left his handbrake on ;-) I can see my Dad pulling away and I know that to stand any chance, I’ve got to pass him before we get on the Nordschleife, I decide not to break for the veedol chikane and go straight over it, this is serious stuff and I bloody well get him, stick up a finger, only to see that my mad cousin has followed my line and is side by side with my dad =:-O Onto the Nordschleife with me in the lead, then Dad, Nick, and Lucky apparently lost ;-) The first icy patch is at Hocheichen woooooooh, we’re all still on the track, going from Schwedenkreuz to Aremberg my Dad passes me smiling, he might as well be reading the paper and having a bloody cup of tea, I bet he‘s listening to Brahms or something!! At Adenauer Forst I repeat a habit thats been with me for years and take the „ballet in the middle of the corner“ line, spin spin spin, clump, bounce..., right, where were we, toot toot, Nicks just gone past, bugger, still no sign of Lucky though! Onward and upward, no change in the positions until a fantastically brave outbreaking manouver by Nick at Breidscheid of all places (turns out later that his brake fluid was a tad hot and he actually did’nt have any brakes at that point) =:-O So we enter the uphill climb, Nick, Dad, Me, and Lucky probably somewhere near Bonn ;-) Stay on the gas, stay on the gas, stay on the gas, what the f*ck is Nick doing at the Karussel, out he pops, BIG moment, ha ha ha ha, vroom 300E, vroom XR3i, and that my freinds, was how it finished,.....well, not quite ;-) The aftermath; You remember Lucky don’t you, well his fanbelt went before he even got to the Südkehre, we had to get a fanbelt from the garage, go back to his car, fit it, and go back home about two hours later than planned. „Where the bloody hell have you been“ they asked politely! „Well we’ve been to the, errr, racetrack! My uncle Lucky’s wife goes very red, he goes slightly transluscent, BOOM.....then my auntie Anna joins in...BOOM!!!! Lucky is looking very sorry for himself, me Nick & Dad are pissing ourselves laughing, that’s it Lucky has had enough, „I’m going home he declares“, his wife continues arguing as they get into the Granada Estate. Reverse, throttle....BOOM.....he backs straight into auntie Annas Morris Minor (Mable) turning it into a somewhat Minor Morris ;-) Karl (aka Sir Bastard).. A true story! Sir Bastard's lap description (WARNING - Norschleife newcomers DO NOT TRY TO FOLLOW HIS DESCRIPTIONS ON THE TRACK. You will crash.) The time references are from Peeter Pahv at - <http://rejsa.nu/forum/viewforum.php?f=15> Click the links ( 1-10 ) on the various sections for a more detailed view Karl has asked me to make a note that the sections he says are 'FLAT' are in his words "That means flat out if you know the track and your car and have banzai tattooed on your forehead, and an electrical lead plugged into your temple, NOT if you are on your first trip etc etc. " Guess this means that ffs! don't follow his words for gospel on your first trip, as he's a bit of a nutter? >Start - Hohenrain, Flat...... Approach Hohenrain and cut over the white line on the left, change into third, through Hohenrain in third and stay in third through T13 Bastard Bend, change to 4th going down into Hatzenbach, dab the brakes before the first right hander 8.52.59, stay flat in fourth until 8.53.12, brake, change to third and stay in third through Hatzenbach 1, 2, 3 and Hocheichen, accelerate out of Hocheichen and change to fourth at 8.53.40 and fifth just after the bridge. Stay flat through Flugplatz & Kottenborn, change to 4th after the crest at Schwedenkreuz and take SX in 4th, brief acceleration between exit SX and Aremberg then brake like f*ck and change down to 3rd for Aremberg. 3rd, 4th, 5th down Fuchsröhre, straight line down the hill, slight sphincter twitch at the compression, change to 4th at 8.54.59 and third at 8.55.02. Take the right hander flat in third, then late entry to AF left hander and through the combination in 3rd, change to 4th at 8.55.25. Stay in fourth 4th at 8.55.31 and third at entry Metzgesfeld left hander, stay in third through Kallenhard right then 4th at 8.55.56. Through the right/left combination almost flat in 4th and around miss hit miss in 4th, downhill approach to Wehrseifen change to 3rd, brake, release brake for right turn, brake, left turn in 3rd (toot the horn, wave to Claire and kids), accelerate through exit right hander (s******), change to 4th downhill to Breidscheid, back to 3rd at 8.56.34, over bridge, slight throttle lift at 8.56.41, line up for Ex Mühle and flat in 3rd through the corner, (slimey but satisfying). Change to 4th after ExMühle, flat until Bergwerk late turn in, through Bergwerk in 3rd, accelerate out, 4th at 8.57.16, stay in fourth flat out until Steilstreken Kurve. Steilstreken Kurve in third and scream the nuts off the BW in third until Karussel, enter the Karussel approx. 85kmh, go in at the third slab, exit with the dot in the middle of the car. Change to 4th at 8.58.44 and stay in 4th flat through Hohe Acht, slight brake for the exit right hander then through Wippermann in 4th, change to 3rd at 8.59.31 and through Eschbach, Brünnchen and Eiskurve in 3rd. Change to 4th at 9.00.13 and stay in fourth through Pflanzgarten 1 & *2, 5th at 9.00.41, *this section is flat out until 9.00.46, then change to 4th, at about 9.00.52 change to 3rd, stay in 3rd through the mini Karussel. Change to 4th at 9.01.10. Slight lift before Galgenkopf and then flat... Karl (aka Sir Bastard)..
what exactly is going on there, warm up laps with regular traffic but only one-way on the roads?! IoM/TT is the one course that makes the Nordschleife look safe and easy to memorize. I don't believe it has the sudden elevation changes as the NS (does it?) but it's length and even less run-off than the NS leave me slack-jawed to watch those super-bikers going full speed....
Like the 'Ring, the public are able to sample the course during the event. The traffic is only allowed one way. This video was of a very skilled rider on his street bike. Eleveation changes are maybe not as dramatic physically but the smaller ones are more than felt on a bike as at the 'Ring, passing is done to one side only.
The 'Ring *will* bite you - This one's a *really* short classic IMHO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grb079bY-Gc Enjoy! Cheers, Ian
me and my lovely Morgan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W738Dr6q2q8 fwd better in the wet???? gues not
my lap first of 2010 car: Morgan Roadster V6 (2009) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPFaj-od3I there were af few ferrari's 360cs, that noiz!!!!!!!!!!!!! mondial T with full cage 550 with roll-bar and a few 430 (boring at first, beauty in motion on NS) going there: black 458
