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  1. srslusso

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    #1 srslusso, Sep 27, 2009
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    A represenitive of the landlord showed up @ 8:30 this morning at the 4 year old overcrowded gathering on Valley circle south of the 101 and ordered all of us to leave the premises. The LAPD cars 4 of them were present to ensure there were no problems with the represenitive of management telling us to leave. They said no one was violating any law since the lot was open to the public and many of the over 300 car owners were customers of VCR and other business located there.
    20 % est of the carowners left and a person was said to be gathering vehicle liscense plate numbers for a possible injunction of some sort to keep us from gathering at the lot.
    I think the problem has become acute since the unwritten dividiing line between the North part of the lot where ********** occurs and the south part of the lot where there is now no room for Vons Market CVS Drug etc customers has been broken as the event has become more popular especially with the Hot Rod Crowd in particular on the last Sunday of the month.
    The event's popularity has once again outgrown it's parking lot just like Chrystal Cove and eventually the landlord will prevail even if he has to set up a booth with an attendent charging for parking on Sundays.
    Does anyone know of a large parking lot preferably with Food and restrooms available Sunday Mornings ?
    I think we need to find a place fast. I once proposed the area parallel to Van Nuys Airports runway on the West side of the Airport. Take Saticoy east past Hayvenhurst force turn Left onto (extension of ) Hayvenhurst Ave. There are several large Warehouses there with huge parking lots a lot of unrestricted street parking no noise problems except for the local jets taking off 50 yards away. Several Catering trucks could provide food and so if we just come up with someone who could provide Porta Potties it could be a spot for everyone to meet without hassles. It's not as convenient nor as close to the mountain roads as VCR but ???
     
  2. srslusso

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    #2 srslusso, Sep 27, 2009
    Correct title of this thread.
     
  3. srslusso

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    #3 srslusso, Sep 27, 2009
    I don't know who is putting the astericks in ? nor why ?
     
  4. Modenafan

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    #4 Modenafan, Sep 27, 2009
    I spoke with someone who spoke directly to the LAPD and the L.A. Sheriffs. Both agencies says there's nothing wrong and not much the landlord can do. I was also told very few people left but once again I wasn't there.

    Btw, isn't your business in the location that you're trying to move the show to? ;)
     
  5. wax

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    #5 wax, Sep 27, 2009
    Asterisks are result of software filtering out certain names, websites or words.
     
  6. SKXF430

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    #6 SKXF430, Sep 27, 2009
    The Calabasas Commons just up the road would be nice. Not too sure if the owner, Caruso Affiliated would go for it though. However, I understand the owner Rick Caruso is a car collector himself and he sponsors a car show each year at The Grove.

    I hope a new place is found soon.
     
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    #8 mchas, Sep 27, 2009
    OH SNAP! :D
     
  9. Modenafan

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    #9 Modenafan, Sep 27, 2009
    No reason to move it. :)
     
  10. Redd430

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    #10 Redd430, Sep 27, 2009
    Don't think there is anything to worry about.
     
  11. LeonG360

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    #11 LeonG360, Sep 27, 2009
    Agree, plus, we are customers of the shopping center, there is no time limit of how long we can take to drink a cup of coffee...
     
  12. Modenafan

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    #12 Modenafan, Sep 27, 2009
    Agreed. :)
     
  13. darth550

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    #13 darth550, Sep 27, 2009
    Probably a bunch of little old ladies and Prius drivers *****ing to the CVS manager about having to walk an extra 20 yards causing this......
     
  14. srslusso

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    #14 srslusso, Sep 27, 2009
    I was there and spoke directly to the officers as I wrote in the posting. You were not present so Please don't contradict what they told me. They stated they could not arrest anyone or order anyone to leave since it is a parking lot open to the public, they were merely there at the request of the landlord to protect the person ordering us to leave.
    The fact that my business is located near the site I proposed is coincidental since most of the auto enthusiasts present are there to look at cars not rugs or furniture.
    I don't believe you were part of the group of people that drove down to Chrystal Cove each Saturday until the Landlord decided it was interfering with his business and effectively closed down the venue to auto enthusiasts. This led to the establishment of Cars and Coffee at what was Ford"s parking lot near the Spectrum in OC. It can and now I think likely to happen here.
    As I asked Does anyone have a drivein or ? that could accomodate the event, I think we will be looking for one soon !
     
  15. dakharris

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    #15 dakharris, Sep 27, 2009
    Since you guys are all in the valley, you probably have not heard of Derelict Doughnuts in Huntington Beach. Find a doughnut or coffee shop with a large parking lot and ask the merchant if he would would like a few dozen new customers on a Saturday morning. Problem solved.
     
  16. gothemi8

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    #16 gothemi8, Sep 27, 2009

    From what I understand Supercar Sunday was started by S4Dustin on here who owns Village Coffee Roaster, where the show is centered around. I'm sure if the show went somewhere else theres the possibility it would run into the same problem. It would take a large private property able to hold a meet, such as how Cars & Coffee is held at the Mazda headquarters, to not have to worry about being kicked out by the tenants of the property.
     
  17. Modenafan

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    #17 Modenafan, Sep 27, 2009
    The problem is that on the last Sunday of the month you're looking at about 500+ cars. It has to be a pretty big lot. Apparently some of the store owners currently don't want "a few dozen new customers".
     
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    #18 Modenafan, Sep 27, 2009
    I'm not contradicting what they told you, just what a few told me.

    Btw, I did go down to Crystal Cove on many occasions.
     
  19. jlonmark

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    #19 jlonmark, Sep 27, 2009
    I remember going to a few BMW and other exotic meets at the Ralphs parking lot in Malibu, right over Las Virgenes. This is a shopping center, much like the El Camino one with lots of parking. Starbucks, Coogies, Malibu Yogurt, Bui sushi just to name a few would most likely appreciate the added business.
     
  20. Modenafan

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    #20 Modenafan, Sep 27, 2009
    Pretty big parking lot but I don't know about sushi at 7:00 a.m. :)
     
  21. Redd430

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    #21 Redd430, Sep 27, 2009
    We are not leaving VCR! They'll have to drag my dead body away before I give up the Sundays!

    Any questions?
     
  22. Steve R

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    #22 Steve R, Sep 28, 2009
    Or Monday through Saturday as it applies to you... :)

    I see your point: you're coming, parking and buying some coffee...end of story. How can they possibly stop that?

    Just out of curiousity.....off the 101 freeway, Hampshire exit heading south, just past the gas station, there is a HUGE parking lot on the West side...it appears to be a large shopping mall that's closed down. It's all gated-off & locked, but what's up with that location?
     
  23. Supercar Ace

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    #23 Supercar Ace, Sep 28, 2009
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    Agreed. I was there with Redd430 watching it all happen...or not happen, as it were. I don't think VCR has a need to be relocated, as long as people don't do donuts in the street or crash during a high speed fly by. And if those did occur, that might just bring out more police to watchdog the area.

    Besides, if 50 of us all go to place for coffee, there's nothing in the law book that says we can't do it. Even if 50 really is 500 ;)
     
  24. miketuason

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    #24 miketuason, Sep 28, 2009
    I was thinkin, maybe Jay Leno can talk to the landlord representative and say a few words like, maybe buying the whole lot:D
     
  25. Huskerbill

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    #25 Huskerbill, Sep 28, 2009
    I thought that stores/restaurants reserved the right to refuse service. I wonder if they could do that, thus you all wouldn't be "customers" anymore.

    I would recommend finding out which store complained to the landlord. If it is the CVS, then meet with them to discuss the issue. If they are saying that you all are taking up spots for paying customers, then mandate to your group that they buy something from them the next weekend. Should solve it at that point.
     
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