360 Oil leakage

my friend has a 99 360M, he worries about his 360's petrol pipe has funny oil leakage like the photos shown, do you guys encounter same problem, there isnt any petrol smell from the engine compartment, and the dealer claims that is normal. please advise thanks
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Looks like a fuel leak.

 

but not fire yet, and there is no any smell of gas..??

all those fuel pipe has this problem.

and those fluid like motor oil instead of petrol

 

My car does not have that. Maybe my car is not normal

 

this is not common problem in F360,need to fix it ASAP,very dangerous.

 

Don't drive the car till that is fixed!!!!!! There should not be any leaks, oil/gas/other.

That Dealer is a MORON...

 

This is not present on my 360.
It sure looks like motor oil, doesn't it? I wonder if the car was overfilled with oil and it is leaking out of the plenum cover and tracking along the lines? I would think you would smell petrol if it was there.

 

Those actually are photos of my car. As you can see, all the fuel hoses are greasy. We took it to the F dealer, they cleaned it and told us no fuel leak were found. I took it to another garage when it got all greasy again, they removed the side cover to examine all the fuel hoses from the fuel pump to the engine to the anti-evaporator... couldn't find any leak, all the fuel hoses are covered in oil the whole length, it didn't look or smell like gasoline and it is sticky to the touch. Any suggestion?

 

Get a new service shop, there is a leak of 'something'—there. My 360 engine bay is spotless even with 9700 on the odo.

No leaks anywhere.

—Vic in Seattle

 

I am a service tech (not Ferrari) and for a dealer to say that the leaking fluid is "normal" implies that your Ferrari is designed to leak. RIDICULOUS. I have had many customers come in complaining of an oil leaks that, upon inspection, were eventually determined to be power steering leaks. Check the PS fluid as one side of the system is pressurized and a even a pinhole leak can cause fluid to spray in the most unlikely places. Also, a non-functioning PCV system can cause oil leakage also. Hope this helps.

 

and your top pic shows two hoses with what appears to be aftermarket hose clamps on them. This means that those hoses have been replaced with bulk hose and if I were you I would concentrate on those hoses. It looks like the source of the leak may be from under those clamps and the hose diameter looks to be too big to me. They look ballooned out compared to the clamps themselves. Also, if it is PS fluid not all bulk hose is rated for power steering fluid and I think that is what the leaks is. However, all I have to go by is the pics so I may be totally wrong.

 

+1 When I had my 360 with ~13k miles on the ODO there wasn't a spot of oil on the engine. Your dealer is an idiot for telling you this is normal.

 

That is not fuel and is not a fuel leak. You have a front seal leak on the front of the motor near the firewall that is causing the engine oil to be blown upward and over to the side of your manifold area. The probable source is a cam drive seal on the front of the motor or a bad main bearing seal in front at the crank. Have it checked out.

C-

 

+1 Definitely not normal as I don't see any of that on 360s. You will need to have the car serviced ASAP from a qualified technician. My advice is stay away from those guys who screw up, don't know WTF they are doing or talking about.

 

Kind of like us, eh?
I like the explanation of the leaky cam seal, but how do you explain oil/fluid making it all the way back to the right rear of the car? And those hoses and clamps coming off the pneumatic tank don't appear to be spec, but they don't actually carry any liquid, do they?

 

My mechanic has a theory: the rubber hoses are so worn out, gasoline can soak thru the entire hose slowly. The greasy stuff is from the residual of the gasoline, the lubrication content in gasoline. Any suggestion?

 

I believe that the fuel hose are strictly high pressure pre-molded plactic due to the high pressure fuel system. I believe fuel pressure specs on the 360 are 35-55 psi KOER and so the lines are plastic. To me it looks like hydraulic fluid, either PS or F1 fluid. Looks too thin to be oil to me.

 

of cam or crank seal also and have seen and repaired many seal failures. The oil at the cam and crank seals are not under any pressure so most every leak I have seen were seepage leaks where the oil just leaked out and the gravity took it down. If it was crank it would pool up on the undertray. If it was cam it would be inside the timing cover. The only way, in my opinion, that it could reach the fuel and EVAP lines would be if it got slung around by the dampener or another pulley. That problem would be very obvious so that is why I didnt think it was cam or crank seal. I could be wrong though and whatever it is I hope the original poster lets us know what it eventually was.

 

+1 After reading the above post and taking a closer look of pix 1. It looks like the hoses and clamps are the place to start. Replace with the right parts for the job.

Good Luck!!!

PS, find another 'better' Dealer.

 

Sorry there is only one dealer in HK, I am afraid

 

and look closely at those aftermarket rubber lines especially at the clamps. Clean everything up and run your engine for a few minutes and look for any fluid...the leak looks pretty bad and should not be very hard to find. It appears to be migrating along the plastic fuel and EVAP lines so follow those lines carefully. Start by cleaning everything and especially look for fluid seeping out from the end of those lines past the hose clamps. BE CAREFUL not to get the engine too hot due to fire hazard anthough most hydraulic fluid has a very high flash point. OR

Go back to the dealer and insist that the leak is not normal and insist that they find the source and repair it. Thats what they do isnt it...repair Ferrari's???