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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #1 tifosi12, Oct 3, 2009
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2009
    After all the penalties handed out for qualifying, this is what the grid will most likely look like:

    1 Vettel
    2 Trulli
    3 Hamilton
    4 Heidfeld
    5 Kimi
    6 Rosberg
    7 Kubica
    8 Sutil
    9 Rubens
    10 Alguersuari
    11 Button
    12 Fisico
    13 Kovalainen
    14 Buemi
    15 Nakajima
    16 Grosjean
    17 Alonso
    18 Liuzzi
    19 Glock
    20 Webber
     
  2. Modena360-66

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    yes it should be like this.
    But they said we'll have the final grid 4 or 1 hour before the race.
     
  3. Simon^2

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    I wonder if Alonso will start with more than 12 laps of fuel...
     
  4. kraftwerk

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    Ham 3rd KERS long run, down hill at start.

    Kimi also could/should get the jump at the start.
     
  5. ATBNM3

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    + Vettle's racecraft vs Hamilton's! If Vettle does a Melbourne this could end up in tears...
     
  6. Senna1994

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    I think Hami is going to take this one or even Kimi. I think that talent really shines on this track, not discounting Vettel, just a feeling on my end.
     
  7. Modeler

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    For the record, these were the top 10 fuel weights:
    Sebastian Vettel 658.5 kg,
    Jarno Trulli 655.5,
    Lewis Hamilton 656,
    Sutil 650,
    Barrichello 660.5,
    Nick Heidfeld 660,
    Button 658.5,
    Kimi Raikkonen 661,
    Kovalainen 675
    Buemi 665.4.
     
  8. VIZSLA

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    Or sometime after the race is over knowing the FIA.
     
  9. Qvb

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    I would guess Kimi up to 3rd on the first lap, ahead of Trulli (backwards start) and Heidfeld.
    He has a lap or two more fuel then Vettel and Hamilton so it could be interesting if his pace is good. But probably Vettel and Hamilton leave him and he cruises to third. (Which just happens to match my F1 tipping, therefore something completely different will happen)
     
  10. Modena360-66

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    So Timo Glock won't race.
    And it seems like toyota couldn't have a derogation to replace him.
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    Not the guy who ran in P1 and 2?
     
  12. Modena360-66

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    Well last new I read is saying that Kobayashi isn't allowed to run.
    Let's see if it changes tomorrow.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    Thanks.
     
  14. JoeGuitar

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    Oh yeah? What was the reason given?
     
  15. Modena360-66

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    #15 Modena360-66, Oct 3, 2009
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    they just said toyota couldn't have the authorisation to take out Kobayashi, no details.

    it's 1:39 am in france now, I won't have any news till tomorrow.
    Maybe you guys will have more updates.

    edit: although someone found this:

    ""19) CHANGES OF DRIVER
    19.1 a) During a season each team will be permitted to use four drivers. Changes may be made at any time before the start of the qualifying practice session provided any change proposed after 16.00 on the day of scrutineering receives the consent of the stewards.
    Additional changes for reasons of force majeure will be considered separately.""

    if that helps.
     
  16. jknight

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    I read last night that Toyota would have to go to the FIA and do all sorts of tricks to get that other guy to drive since the car was not qualified for the race.

    this help??

    Carol
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    Thanks.
     
  18. DGS

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    It really depends on the order in which they apply the penalties and exclusions.

    E.g., if they apply Buemi's penalty before the Rubens/Button/Sutil/Alonso penalties, and then apply Glock's pit lane, and then Liuzzi's and Kovi's gearbox --- or if they apply them in a different order, the results can be significantly different.

    E.g. Kubica could start anywhere from 7th to 10th.

    Maybe they ought to just let 'em race from the garage to the grid. ;)
     
  19. R2112

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    :D
     
  20. jknight

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    according to Jon Noble from Autosport 30 minutes ago, a glorious sunny morning at Suzuka. A lot of tired people in the paddock though - and still no grid!

    Carol
     
  21. tifosi12

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    A very good point. Mad Max surely enjoys picking that order as he likes.
     

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