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Australian Enzo?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by LittleA, Oct 13, 2009.

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  1. LittleA

    LittleA Rookie

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    Hi all. Just a quick question re the legalities of Enzo's in Oz.

    Why would it not be possible to register an Enzo in Australia?

    I've have a number of low slung road registered racers, and have licenced them with no real issues. From memory, the GT40 (replica) was tough given the measured height of the head light beam.

    Is it this sort of fundamental design issue that would be the problem, or just a matter of having to convert too many components to meet all current ADR standards?

    Or is it an emissions based issue, and let's say that could be overcome (through the correct channels).
     
  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I think it's a RT hand drive issue. You could modify one to RT hand drive. I don't think there were RT hand drive ones. Others?
     
  3. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Welcome to FerrariChat Andrew! :):)

    Our resident legend Napolis is RIGHT on the money my friend. :):)

    ALL Enzo Ferraris were build left hand drive. In Aussie land, you are well aware that the car needs to be RHD. :):)

    Unless you live in Tassie or the Northern Territory where left hand drive cars can be registered. Any other state requires the car to be at least 30 yrs old to register left hand drive. :):)

    If you could get a right hand drive Enzo, then it would also have to adhere to the Aussie Design Rules. But that wont be an issue, because you wont see a right hand drive Enzo. :D:D

    You could get Ferrari to make you a new RHD tub for your Enzo, I just hope you have deep pockets! :eek::eek:
     
  4. Ferrari 360 CS

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    For the same reason there are no Enzo's able to drive on the road in South Africa, unless of they are brought in by a non resident to use for a period not exceeding 5 year.
     
  5. Kelsa

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    i believe the 30 year old rule isn't really 30 year anymore, its anything pre ADR, which is before 1969 or something like that? just like the previous 15 year classic car import now is strictly anything made before 1989 IIRC.
     
  6. 360C

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    Can't be registered ANYWHERE in Australia. Forget about it.
     
  7. PAP 348

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    I dont know about that! ;);)

    Yep yep! :D:D
     
  8. SPEEDCORE

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    Drive around on trade plates ;)
     
  9. 360C

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    Not legal, with the exception of an "importer/manufacter".

    There are over a dozen F40's, four F50's and 2 Enzo's in Oz. Not one of them is road registered. What does that tell you?
     
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  11. LittleA

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    Great info guys, thanks.

    The reason I ask is that I know of a guy building his own Enzo in WA, in fact it's an FXX copy built around a tube frame chassis (not monocoque), and is RHD.

    Just wasn't sure how he'd go if he decides to go through the licencing process.
     
  12. LittleA

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    Has anyone else heard of this project?

    I'm told it's a pretty serious attempt...
     
  13. PAP 348

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    I have NOT heard of this before! :D:D

    I wonder what engine/trans combo he is thinking of fitting. :D:D

    If you hear of anymore mate, please let us know or post pics. Or better yet, tell the man building the FXX to join Fchat and post some pics of this project. :D:D

    99.9% of replicas are REALLY REALLY crappy! :D:D

    The best F40 replica I have seen is amazing and it has been discussed here many times before. I take my hat off to him for making an Enzo FXX replica. :):)

    I just hope he does a good job of it! ;);)
     
  14. Schmick325

    Schmick325 Formula Junior

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    god, hope it doesn't end up looking something like this . . .

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  15. PAP 348

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    #15 PAP 348, Oct 14, 2009
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  16. Schmick325

    Schmick325 Formula Junior

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    Its the bastard child of an Enzo and Pagani Zonda !
     
  17. Cozmic_Kid

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    Why does it matter what side you sit in?
     
  18. Cozmic_Kid

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    It's a Pagani :D
     
  19. Aedo

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    It doesn't! But a stupid regulation in Australia restricts the registration of LHD cars including the F40, F50, and Enzo :(
     
  20. AYRTONSENNA

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    I have seen pics of a F50 driving in Mandurah, Western Australia a couple of years ago. If I recall correctly there was a pretty good rear end photo and maybe it shows what kind of plates it has.

    I will try to find the pics and post them....
     
  21. PAP 348

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    #21 PAP 348, Oct 15, 2009
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    I think you are referring to this yellow F50? :D:D

    An Fchatter in Aus owns it and was driving it "legally" on the streets there as part of the Ferrari Club of Australia rally. :D:D

    The car is currently for sale if anyone is interested! ;);)

    http://www.maranellomotorsport.com.au/track_inventory.html
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  22. superflyte

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    Hi. Um, well, I guess I'd better own up to it and admit ownership of the FXX replica project here in WA. The design and planning process has soaked up a considerable amount of time, but finally the work is underway!

    Many, many parts have been purchased or are in transit, though there are still a couple of big ticket items to tick off the list yet. The body sections are currently being 5 axis cnc'd, with some more parts being profile cut. Chassis fabrication is yet to start, though all has been FEA tested and run through several different programs to get it right. The spec of the car is pretty high, and will carry a significant parts bill at the end of the project.

    My intention is to build the car for the track, but also be retrofittable with components to comply with all relavant ADR's (engine excepted - that'd have to be swapped out) should I decide to take the licencing department head-on once more!

    I'd be happy to share the build with you guys somewhere on here if you'd like (once serious progress is happening), but not sure where to start it off.

    By the way, mine tends to replicate the original just a little closer than the Zonda-esque creation above...
     
  23. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    what stops one from setting up an import company?

    just import a couple of cheap japanese cars which sell quickly (nissan 180sx for example, you can get them for less than 100K yen), sell them cheap as chips (if you buy so cheap you're likely not to lose much if anything).

    Get your dealer plates and you're sorted. By the time the authorities find out the most they can do is forbid you from driving the car about. I honesty doubt they could sue you, since what you did is completely legal.
     
  24. 134282

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    Troy...

    While your post seems to be a bit out of place in this thread and should probably be a thread of its own, I'm curious nonetheless. Upon what is your FXX replica based? Is it on an Enzo chassis with an Enzo engine? Or are we talking total replica here?
     
  25. Cozmic_Kid

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    That is indeed a stupid regulation. Probably the most stupid reason I have heard to "ban" a car.

    So this counts for ALL LHD cars or just the more rare ones?

    There is a woman driving around in a RHD car here in the village I live in.

    Can't this regulation be changed?

    One can always argue survival chances in the case of a frontal crash, are bigger in a LHD car ;)
    Meaning you are likely further away from the impact area.

    Seriously, this regulation has to go. It serves no purpose for anyone.
     

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