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  1. Marcello

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    #3851 Marcello, Oct 13, 2009
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    Yes, and different mirrors I see now...
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  2. joe sackey

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    #3852 joe sackey, Oct 13, 2009
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    And massive wing end-plates... same as the ones affixed on 1120202. BTW that's Orazio Salvioli behind the wheel.
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  3. joe sackey

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    #3853 joe sackey, Oct 13, 2009
    Yes, its just the lighting...
     
  4. ApexOversteer

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  5. joe sackey

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    #3856 ApexOversteer, Oct 13, 2009
    I believe they're all supposed to be one car, blue/black... wonder what the S/N is... :D
     
  7. Jota 5084

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    #3857 Jota 5084, Oct 14, 2009
    And a Lamborghini motorbike.
     
  8. LC3929

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    #3858 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
    If this is really the car you mean, then it is #1120264. Right, posteriore?
     
  9. LC3929

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    #3859 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
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    Nice observation, new to me (I must admit). I did not look into the book for a long time, in the meantime we learned a lot and now I know one thing more, thank you.

    We also can see that the car in the book has the old style black window winders mainly used for early cars, while 1120256 has the chrome version used for the late cars (see attachment).
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  10. Skogens Baron

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    #3860 Skogens Baron, Oct 14, 2009
    and a lamborghini murcielago lp640 and hes son has a blue countach.. I wonder if he have a 400 gt also.. :) Nice guy :)
     
  11. raymondQV

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    #3861 raymondQV, Oct 14, 2009
  12. LC3929

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  13. joe sackey

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    #3863 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2009
    LC3928:

    Posteriore140 is correct in stating that the first half of LP400 production do not have air vents extruding from the lower part of the transmission tunnel under the dashboard.

    However, I must say that the application of the chrome-trimmed window winders was random throughout LP400 production, but obviously more prevalent towards the end of production.

    Best,
     
  14. joe sackey

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    #3864 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2009
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    As if to prove my point, you can clearly see cars as early as 1120002 had the chrome-trimmed window winders on occasion, but I agree they became a constant feature later in production.
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    #3865 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2009
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    Marcello:

    Is this the car? Here this LP400 is being auctioned at the Poulain auction in France in early 1988 from whence I believe it went to Holland... definitely Blu Tahiti.
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    #3866 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2009
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    By the way, I have been meaning to point this out for a while: Wolf's 1120202 actually started life off in a DARK blue livery, and then was re-finished by the works at the end of the first year to the lighter blue (French Blue) livery we mostly know it to be.

    Another dark blue with white standard LP400 in the background of the top pic...
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  17. LC3929

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    #3867 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
    Yes posteriore is correct.

    I am, too, although it is difficult to determine an exact rule.
     
  18. ken qv

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    #3868 ken qv, Oct 14, 2009
    This might be a sin of words:
    but I like W. car better in dark blue.
     
  19. Peter K.

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    #3869 Peter K., Oct 14, 2009
    I already own #0008. However mine seems to be in much better condition. However, my daughter has lost it sometime back ;)
     
  20. LC3929

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    #3870 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
    I know, I know !

    Strange situation: very early cars had the chrome winders. Didn't we have a photo of 1120008 with the chrome winders, too (I am still in the office without access to my files)?

    Later, let's say starting with #1120012 or even a little bit later in the production run, merely black winders were fitted, but until which car? I don't know, but I am sure that you will not find an original car with chrome winders "between" #1120030 (probably #1120012 would be correct, too) and 1120082. I bet you one bottle of the best German beer!

    Then come the mid period cars - no rule here. Example: #1120108 with chrome winders, #1120118 with black winders. I do not know how long that period lasted

    Later: only chrome winders: 1120270, 1120286, 1120292 and many more (here we already agree).

    Time will show, we already learned a lot and we also will get this question answered.

    There were even more changes during the LP400 production run - who can tell me more? Or do we want to stop with the air vents in the centre console and the window winders?
     
  21. LC3929

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    #3871 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
    I would say: 1120124 - didn't someone here tell us that this is #124?
     
  22. LC3929

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    #3872 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
    Wasn't it Fchatter Giotto who informed us that this is #124?
     
  23. LC3929

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    #3873 LC3929, Oct 14, 2009
    ... this is interesting, hot news! Are you sure?
     
  24. joe sackey

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    #3874 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2009
    Get ready to ship a bottle of the best German beer!

    Seriously though, the trouble with all this is the fact that there were no records kept by the works, and because of the random application of either style of winder unit, at a show such as (the esteemed) Pebble Beach, or elsewhere, either unit has to be accepted, and without a "list" no-one ca definitively say either is wrong. The exception would be if photographic evidence exists of said car at the point of production.
     
  25. joe sackey

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    #3875 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2009
    Ive known this for a decade or more - it just hasn't been discussed in the forum, and Ive been meaning to point it out, but keep forgetting to do so, until today. In fact, in a book Peter W gave me at St Moritz there is a pic of Walter Wolf standing next to 1120202 and there it is: dark blue. Not quite as dark as 1121002, but definitely much darker than the French Blue it became.
     
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