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4 dash switches on "A" VIN 360s, again

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  1. adrenalater

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    The question of A-VIN'd 360s with 4 switches to the left of the steering wheel came up as a brief thread tangent a while back. With yet another example hitting eBay, I have to give it it's own thread. Was this a case of Ferrari running out of blanks for US cars and just substituting switches connected to nothing? Is it confined to any particular model year or serial number range?

    Trivial issue, I realize, but I'm curious!

    The pic below is from VIN zffyu51a9y0120713.

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  2. Spider-Man

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    I have 4 switches. Car was sold new at FoSF in July 2001.
     
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    Interesting topic - never noticed this before. Looks like the switch was removed at some point during or after 2001. The pictures below are 120312, 121161, 121234, 121243, 121244, 121424, 121700, 122142 and 122418.

    The last nine pictures are 2002 and newer, showing three switches: 129917, 131897, 133335, 133343, 135994, 136484, 137185, 138089 and 138299.

    ALL pictures are of US-spec cars.
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  4. cove26

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    So what is that 4th switch supposed to operate? Anyone know who has one?
     
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    Jeezus Carbon. That is frightening. What do you do in your spare time? :)
     
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    What is this 'spare time' of which you speak?
     
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  7. frvett

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    I think the other switch is used in foreign countrys outside of the USA for fog lights in american cars it is not used on my 2000 360.
     
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  8. DMaury

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    Have the 4 switches in my 01 spider, and they are all connected to electrical plugs/wires. pics of it in my dash repacement thread. Have no clue what that 4th switch does.
     
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    Maury, if the serial number of your spider is higher than 122418, I'd love to know it. It'd be nice to track down the last car with four switches and the first car with three switches - each serial number helps to narrow the search.

    I would also love to learn why that fourth mystery switch exists...
     
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  10. DMaury

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    Yep, it's 126175.
     
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    Wow! Higher than I anticipated. Thank you. Your car is yellow with black interior and yellow piping, right? Did you buy it from Algar when they had it for sale in July, 2008?
     
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    Getting closer here... As per DMaury, his car 126175, has four switches. The cockpit pictured below, 126603, is a 2001 US Spider that has three switches. So the change over for US Spiders was in 2001, and between 126175 and 126603.

    Where is Brian Crall? Surely he knows why this fourth switch exists.
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  13. DMaury

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    Yep, that's the one! :)
     
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    Euro cars are fitted with rear Fog lamps, that is what the fourth switch operates.
     
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    Eddie, thank you. I saw the switches clearly in this thread but still wasn't sure what they were.

    So the 360 Modena and 360 Spider dashes were just cookie cutter stamped for all models across the board. Anyone know what spurred Ferrari to finally change this in 2001?
     
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    my01 is 125999 and i have all 4 switches
     
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    I wonder how many of the 300+ members who clicked into this thread found it a waste of time?
     
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    I expect many have formed an opinion of your contributions to the forum.

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    Yep, that's what it works on the Euro cars, but what does it do on these North American cars? My switch is not just a dummy, but hooked to a plug going into the wiring harness. I suspect that the harnesses (at least the main/dash harness) is the same for all models and that the factory guy that put the plugs in just did it the same for all the cars. I'm betting the rear harness for my car doesn't have the wires for rear fog lights.
     
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    This is a yellow/black F1 Spider, right? Thanks for the update!

    Thanks, Maury! So does this mean that an owner of a US 360 Modena or Spider that has these four switches could, if they wanted to, install aftermarket fog lights in the rear?
     
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    itsyellow iver navy blue
     
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