What's the deal with Zonda's in the US?

Really? Chrysler has imploded. GM has been dead for a long time. Tesla needed bailout money. American Jeeps and SUVs have a reputation for having the worst quality in their class.

Care to cite these sales numbers you are referring to? Any segment gaining market share? Any sector improving in customer perception vis-a-vis their Japanese or European counterparts? Any manufacturer showing improved profitability? Improved profit percentages? Reduction in union liabilities vis-a-vis foreign competition?

 

actually emissions is more than just strangling the motor. Having delt with importing cars... and having friends who imported many cars... one of the big things is adding the charcoal canister. you have to use and adapt and already US approved canister. It doesn't have to just pass the bull**** sniffer test... its much of the other crap as well

 

oh wow... on supra forums I thought it was proved he didn't own the car and it was a friend or family member who owns the cars and lets him play with the cars and do as he wants.

PS... his supra is slow as all get out. He talked a huge game how he was going to beat everybody... well... he got called out at the texas mile and failed miserably. Street king aka SW laid a pretty good smack down on him.

 

Chevy and Ford both have excellent selling small and mid size cars. Not to mention their trucks for all the big 3 still sell well.

SW's car is a race car with a 91mm. I cant immagine some one would let you make numerous highspeed videos of 200mph pulls. His supra isnt that slow its a setup no one else runs. Its still 1100whp, I forgot 1100whp is slow.



Back on topic if someone would like to start a thread about supras or us car sales Ill post in it but this is about the Zonda.

 

What would it take to get a Zonda F stateside?

 

for all of the **** talking he did yes... his 1100whp is slow. He talked about bringing down the big guns such as SW. He talked a huge game... and couldn't produce. And regarding street car vs race car... its got an on board starter... the chassis isn't cut up... its a street car. it has a full interior etc... Yes 1100whp in the supra world is about 400hp from being a threat to anyone. Once you start to max out the dynos... people start to notice... otherwise and 1100hp supra is kind of like a 360cs. respectable... but not an enzo...

 

an act of God! i don't care who owns, etc... i just want to see one in 'real life'..and if someone has it at a show here in the states, it would make it a whole lot easier for me

 

what are y'all goin on about who's SW?

 

There are a handful in the US. Hopefully you will get lucky and see one sometime. One is even for sale, so it might be on display somewhere. I believe it is in Arizona. Ask around.

Or you could always just go to a show or pop in to a dealer next time you are in Europe or Asia.

 

The car in AZ is gone. Zondas (last time I checked) are not permitted. They do not qualify for show and display. Homeland security (customs) has been looking for these cars...

 

What's your point? I already said they are not permitted under Show and Display. That does not mean people have not brought them in. I am aware of at least four in the US.

 

whats your problem??? "whats your point???" Clearly I understand that people have brought them in regardless of the show and display permit... I admitted to the the car in AZ... actually I know the guy who owns it (not that it is any secret) however... look at where i live and that will probably give you an idea of what I know... Also... in regards to whats my point... my point is stated in the first sentance of my previous post! the car in az is GONE so don't look in AZ

lets both step back and cool our jets.

I may have missed the part where you ALSO said that they are not permitted under show and display. Boo hoo... who cares. sorry. I was just stating a fact. Yes, people have brought them in regardless... and thats why i said homeland security is looking for those cars.

 

so i take it, they won't be out and about casually eh? too bad. darn, when i acquire my Cinque roadster, i'm going to have to be really really really discreet in my dreams, the law is nonexistemente...

 

Here are two that are currently in the U.S. and registered and driven on the street.
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the yellow car is sporting a dealer plate so it is not currently registered. The red zonda featured though is pretty cool! im surprised to see a plate on it... however that plate probably belongs to a different car... such as a ferrari or lamborghini. Our local zonda owner used the plate off of his Mcclaren on his car (illegally) BUT... how many cops are going to know if that is a ferrari/lambo etc...

I really hope i don't come off as Mr. Negative...

 

The yellow Zonda is using a California manufacturer plate, not a dealer plate. The red Zonda is using a New York dealer plate. The laws in most (if not all) states allow vehicles on dealer and manufacturer plates to be used on public roads.

 

huh... it looks like it says DLR on the side of the cali plate... but I am not a cali DLR plate expert... you are probably right... Utilizing a dealer plate on a car that is not meant to be driven on the street (cars without proper vins and cannot be registered for street use are forbidden from dealer plate use. However, unless your are driving a porsche 962 down the street... you won't get stopped... even that has been done

all that being said it is possible to do but not recommended by your lawyer...

(i own a dealership in AZ)

 

Homeland security? Now they are terrorists?

How old are you? Maybe you want to take some time off and let puberty run its course. There have been wonderful advances in acne treatment. Good luck with that.

 

wow this guy needs a nap^^^

Anyhow does anybody know where these cars were tested in the u.s. for emissions and safety equipment? In other words which facility was responsible for converting these cars to u.s. regulations? I've heard of 2 places, in baltimore and new york, which to my knowledge have handled all mclaren f1's, clk-gtrs, and zondas imported to the states. anyone with more specific info?

 

Says "MFG".

I'd be shocked if it says this anywhere in any state statute pertaining to dealer plates - California, New York, Arizona, or otherwise. California dealer license plates are substantially similar to their manufacturer license plates, by the way - you need not be a representative of an actual vehicle manufacturing company to get one, but instead just a representative of a company that manufactures some part of vehicles. However many auto manufacturers have them and it's not a stretch to think that Pagani could be one of them.

 

your funny. As a person who has experience with importing cars I can assure you I am post pubescent as well as largely acne free (it never goes away it just goes south LOL)

Do your own research on the government and its setup before throwing mud.

Homeland Security oversees Customs. Our former governor of AZ is the head of Homeland security. I know what I am talking about. Please do a little reading... or do you need a pop up book?

 

Ahh... too blury in the pic for me to read.

I am a licensed dealer in the state of AZ and I do believe that they do have a problem with "race cars" cars not meant for the street. However, johnnylaw isn't typically aware of these laws, and is really just making sure you are not an illegal and have insurance. I have only been hassled once! And in all things... a damn lincoln Navigator. He was threatening to impound the truck because I couldn't prove that I owned the truck. I bought the truck from a private individual whos title was held by the bank and it was in transfer. TOTALLY LEGAL. He was threatening me up and down about impounding the truck etc... i was as nice as possible... then made a phone call and everything got straightened up.

All that being said... I have put my dealer plate on cars that probably shouldn't have had them on there. My point is that just because you see a plate on a Zonda doesn't mean it is actually registered in the US. People utilize all sorts of grey areas as well as some blatantly illegal ways to get a plate on there car and drive it, and get away with it.

 

Race cars perhaps, but the way every state law I've seen reads, the law is too vague for a citation to be written here.

 

you are absolutely right. it is too vague... that combined with the lack of knowledge by the issuing officer usually means you get let off or not even bothered. As I said, many people will claim a car is legitimate but it really isn't.


This is not directed at you ddemuro:

I was just trying to share my experience with people on here that just because a car is wearing a license plate does NOT make it street legal, registered or even in the country legally.

There are only a few of the 5 CLK DTMs that are actually legitimate enough to register. The late John H's was one of them

 

This much is true, and dealer plates and their (mis?) use only complicates matters more.