Testing Ban question

Yes, IIRC, there's no winter testing. Thats why i was really rooting for Ari to get the FIA post. He's a breathe of fresh air, and he realizes what the fans want, and what repairs the sport needs.

Todt, OTOH, will be continuing the same cost cutting bull$h!t...

 

I share your fear but let's give the guy a chance. He's not wedded to Max's policies and may show some independence now that he doesn't have to cow tow to Max for election support.

 

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but lets hope he'll be way better than Maxxx was.

 

I'm tempted to say he couldn't be worse but won't.
When Max arrived he was supposed to save us from Balestre's outrages, and that worked out so well.

 

Max was great in terms of safety, IMO. i respect him for that, and in 1, he'll always be remembered for that.

However, those constant rules tinkering, rules that doesn't make sense, etc...thats all the low side on him.

I really hope JT will lift the testing ban. It's as stupid as the 1 tyre rule back in 2005.

 

The testing ban is linked to the economics of the sport and Max's desire to get rid of the manufacturers. In addition to the money it will save it will level the difference between the big money teams and the new independents. At least that's the theory. Too bad it suc*s for the fans.

 

February?! Wtf is that?

So absolutely NO F1 action from today until 2 months into 2010. Fantastic.

 

And that fly's in the face of safety issues IMO.

Max will be remembered in my book for trying to destory F1, till he had his wings clipped.

The mess he has created will linger on in the sport hopefully Todt will do the right things.

Max's greatest moment and how he will be remembered was in a Chelsea flat .

 

I believe reducing the cost of competing in F1 was designed to keep the manufacturers not get rid of them. If the economics of F1 had made more sense for Honda and BMW they'd still be in the sport. Reducing costs was, IMO, one of the FIA's better policies, although they may not always have come up with ideal ways of achieving the goal.

 

That was the spin but it looks like the effect will be the opposite. Its biggest effect is the leveling the field. The manufacturer's biggest advantage is their money and their facilities. Both drastically reduced if not negated by the rules changes.

 

A testing ban will totally work against the new teams. Existing teams have enough data to simulate all the races on their shaker rigs. That data isn't there for a new team.

 

Oh common...cost cutting? How bout banning qualifying, and let the drivers draw numbers instead, to see their starting positions.

There's lots of ways to implement cost cutting. Test ban is one of the nonsense ones.

 

The testing ban will make for a more boring season in 2010. With such a short time to develop there new cars, if the car is a roach it will give the teams hardly anytime to fix the problem.

 

Simulations didn't work for McLaren last year. Only track time put the car right. If the boys from Woking can't do it nobody can.

 

There's a few rookie days soon I think - late November in Jerez

 

+1. How many times have we heard that the results from the windtunnel/simulation looked really good, but on track it just doesn't work?.

This season has highlighted the massive effect that severly limited testing can have on a team.

There should be a system in place to allow designated third drivers to test during the season so that they're not caught out if needed in a hurry like Badoer was. A regulation could easily be made that any car being tested by them cannot carry any development parts and must have been used in a race during the season. This would prevent newparts/new cars being developed on the sly and at the same time give the driver a better understanding of the car.

It would have been interesting to see how much better Kobayashi would have been if he'd had this type of testing available. Afterall, He was pretty damned impressive without it!.

 

Once again we saw yesterday that when a car loses a "crucial" piece of highly developed aeorodynamica (Rubens) it doesn't go slower. So much for computer simulations.

 

I wonder if Ross is going to see the designer of that piece and say:

"So how much am I paying you to design that piece which seems to do bugger all on the car?"

 

Seems that once again the Emperor has no clothes

 

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/sporting_regulations/8713/fia.html

 

I think the ban on testing is a good idea, but the practice needs refinement. It is clear that new drivers need to be better prepared than this year, so some sort of new driver limited testing is worthwhile on safety grounds. Secondly, what's wrong with having a 'half term' test session during the long summer break? Adding these tests will add very little cost, but a whole lot of value to the season.

 

Thanks for the link.
It begs the question "what price economy?" though.

 

I'm still "hopeful" that Jean T and his merry band may recognize the craziness that is the testing ban - He's not stupid and at least has run a team in the past....

Now, I don't want a return to the "race team & separate test team" lunacy of a few years back, but I see no reason why they can't show up for the races a day earlier - The track is open all day Thursday, and you can do whatever, and run whoever, you want. [Given a superlicense of course.]

Minimal extra cost, the new guys wlll be able to gain useful data and the big guys can screw around with development parts - Everyone's happy.....

*Way* too logical for the crazy man, but maybe after he "fades to black" JT may be able to do something?

Cheers,
Ian