US GP tipped to return on street circuit

I suppose that it would be appropriate to hold it at a temporary circuit in Charlotte, home of USF1 and center of the US Carbon Fiber industry. Maybe even in their parking lot......

 

Maybe USF1 will win the maiden USGP on a newly paved street course in a major metropolitan area.

And maybe pigs will do the flyover

 

new york!

 

Allegedly Las Vegas had been very serious not that long ago. It would make a lot of commercial sense since it is one city that understands how the influx of teams, spectators, etc. would put money into all the money generating activities of the area. There is also no question about sufficient hotel rooms being available.

Las Vegas also would not be inclined to be worried about noise pollution complaints and environmental impact reports that screw up other possibilities.

Likely the circuit layout would be Mickey Mouse but I am certain Bernie can easily look past that for the aroma of money.

Jeff

 

I vote Miami, since I am at school here right now...

 

My hope is its going to be on the west coast. Vegas maybe?

 

Any word on the development of the Baltimore city circuit?

I know IRL was helping them to develop a street circuit, why not use it for F1 use as well?

 

Meh. Vegas already had it, and DID put it in a parking lot.

A street circuit is not interesting. World's hottest racing cars doing 23 MPH. wooooo.

 

The IRL deal is still quite tentative and I wouldn't hold my breath, but there is an early draft of the proposed track circulating, FWIW- it winds from the area around the stadia (Oriole Park @ Camden Yards & Ravens Stadium) over through the Inner Harbor. IF this comes to pass it'll still be at least 2012 before the first IRL race- assuming there IS an IRL at that point . . .

 

Even though it's mostly fantasy, I'd love to see Chicago pursue a USGP. In the wake of the lost Olympic bid they're looking to the next big idea. The city is trying to think of a use for Northerly Island, the former Miegs airport. They have McCormick Place convention center, lots of roads and land to use, hotels and it could be developed without disrupting traffic.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Western+Springs,+Cook,+Illinois&t=h&ll=41.859493,-87.612276&spn=0.019465,0.045447&z=15

 

Bear in mind that this is the same Nick Craw who is so bullish on USF1.

 

Back to Long Beach, please!

 

It wasn't the IRL it was ChampCar (formerly CART) and it wasn't in a parking lot it was in downtown Vegas and it was one of the best street course layouts ever. I don't think Vegas will be hosting an F1 race, no one has the money to pay the sanction fee to Bernie and there's really no place to lay out a decent course. A race on "the strip" just ain't gonna happen.

 

I can't see Vegas doing it unless it was on the most dead weekend of their season, which would be precisely the opposite of what Bernie wants... and also they would want to put it out of town somewhere whereas Bernie would want it in the center of the city.

F1 just isn't nearly big enough or important enough to close down Las Vegas for a week. No way, no how. Even if 150k people came for the race, that's a fraction of what they get for a major show - and a major show doesn't require blocking roads for a week.

 

It was indeed Formula 1, and it was indeed a parking lot, and it was indeed Vegas.

Specifically, the parking lot of the Caesars Palace Hotel in the early 80s

 

+1

It's just BS from Craw... if any US city is interesting in putting on an F1 show for Bernie on a street circuit, I would eat my hat.

They wouldn't do it in general, but especially considering the fee Bernie would want, and the way the USA and it's fans have been treated thus far by F1.

 

And it did suck.

 

Getting a US city to OK a street race these days will be next to impossible. Particularly if its for F1. Bernie will want too much money and the fan base just isn't there.
The only places economically desperate enough to welcome a race couldn't afford one.
If F1 returns it will be at Indy.

 

Aside from the issue of Bernie's fees; what about Homestead's road course? I haven't seen it so I can't comment - but from a destination standpoint, Miami would fit perfectly into F1's profile.
Btw - whatever happened to the Cancun, or Cozumel track? (I forget which city it was)
Kevin

 

+1

Any street circuit in the US is a pipe dream. Same goes for the crowd's favorites Laguna Seca, Watkins Glen, Road Atlanta and Road America.

Only realistic chance is Indy and Daytona's infield.

IF Bernie dies AND the USF1 team makes the grid (by e.g. buying Toyota's team) AND survives long term, then there is a remote chance for this to happen. But those are big IFs.

 

I present to you, the hypocrisy of Nick Craw

"I think everybody from the commercial rights holder, to the teams, to the sponsors, to all the drivers see the absence of a US Grand Prix as being a huge liability,”

“Having said that, there is only one circuit in the United States that has a grade one licence which is what you need for Formula 1 and that’s Indianapolis and there’s probably no deal forthcoming there."



Why is there no deal forthcoming there, Crawfish? Because Bernie wants the city to kick in a huge amount and pay an equal fee to other places, like those crapholes in the desert that nobody cares about.

It is absurd for him to claim that the commercial rights holder (Bernie) sees the absense of a USGP as a liability yet also for the same guy to be THE stumbling block to making a deal happen.


And again, we are treated like idiots.

 

That could be a perfect locale. And plenty of space for the Euro Elite to park their yachts.

 

Agree on the Chicago spot given all the headaches of any other spot. Neat location and a ton of potential given the amount of land.

A dedicated track from the ground up will be what makes it work 'cause this ain't Monaco.

I would love for the U.S. venue to be the pinacle or at least a close second with regards to track layout and actual facilities (on site hotels, attractions, etc and other sanctioned race dates) but the only way it will happen is through a city imposed tax, much in the same way a new stadium is built. And we are not talking football so it is hard to imagine a city rallying behind a non-green and percieved limited appeal sport.

 

Sorry dude, my bad, thought you were referring to the Vegas race two years ago, I had forgotten about the Caesar's event.