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Latest pictures of MM Enzo

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by S Brake, Jan 17, 2009.

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  1. FerrariF50lover

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    Sw's car put down like 1300whp. Its got 62mm's if Im not mistaken. The 1500whp one has billet 67's thus 1500whp. I think the gearing lets them run 230 something. Theres many differences between Sw's gallardo and his black supra. First one is a race car, the other is a street car which means a ton of weight. I belive his supra weighs in somewhere near 3000lbs. The supra should be more whp as well its a 91mm car and I dont know if he uses nitrous to spool it up if so Id be willing to bet its a big shot. The only advantage is the gallardo has awd. The reason why the dyno numbers are in rwhp is because the disconect the front to put it on a dyno.
     
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    .......zoom-zoom!



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  3. Bill S

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    Yes, that looks like a turbo! Amazing that you fit it in there. Who did the new exhaust work? I suspect you wanted to be sure everything was tuned properly.

    Many details!!

    1. Turbo cooling system?
    2. Wastegate control?
    3. New engine management system?
    4. Emissions?
    5. Re-worked engine compression and cooling?
     
  4. NWaterfall

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    Now you're talking! :D


    Awesome work! Keep it up! Offer is still out there if you need help with anything
     
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    Is that carbon brace left of the engine a factory piece, or has it been post-engineered for extra rigidity? I don't remember seeing that on factory car pictures...

    So sweet to see that snail bolted up....

    :)

    Keep the updates comin, and thank you!!
     
  6. FerrariF50lover

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    Id guess a standalone of some sort. I think all the TT gallardos run a MOTEC I know the UGR cars do atleast so that would be a good guess. What wastegates and what lb is the spring? What turbo or turbos?
     
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    Does the Motec simply run the motor? Does it interface with the original ecu?
     
  8. 5000TT

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    A standalone unit would replace the stock ECU completely whereas a piggy-back ECU would work in conjunction with the Enzo's. While I'm not too familiar with Motec units in particular, there are more than likely a good number of aftermarket standalone systems that could be adapted to run the 12.
    Seeing a twin turbo Ferrari (not from the factory) gets me going.... why don't more people do this??

     
  9. FerrariF50lover

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    Excellent response. The only thing I would see would be a mild issue would be creating a base map to tune from, but for someone who does this every day it shouldnt be an issue. The number of people who own Ferrari's are to worried about their resale value to do any serious mods which is why I can really dig what most of the american car guys do theyll put turbos, nitrous, superchargers on anything regardless of the cost. I think the TT Gallardos are really showing that Exotic cars arent as fragile as everyone thinks they are.
     
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    So true. Pistons are pistons, rods are rods... they don't care which block they'e in. Follow the basic equations for making reliable power, and you can't go wrong. A set of lower comp. pistons, H or I-beam rods, and you're set. Any aftermarket piston/rod company will produce a part to match your exact specs. Auxilary injection (water/meth) to keep it cool and reliable... intake temps lower than that of stock.
    Twin GT35's all the way up to GT42's if you're nuts. 800 rwhp on low boost, 14-1500 if you want to go nuts.
    There's really nothing too it. The all aluminum Toyota/Nissan V8's, have been pushed to 1500 whp since the early 90's. I couldn't even imagine the pure enjoyment of building one of these Ferrari 12's to this sort of level.
    Here's an example of a turbo kit I've designed and built for a 4.7 litre Toyota 2UZ V8 for a Supra. I would die a happy man to be able to do this on a Ferrari 12... (hence the name i use on this forum...)
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    I wonder how those carbon intake manifolds are going to hold up with the excess heat in both the engine bay and the intake charge as well as with pressure as opposed to vaccum. I guess it will have alot to do with how much boost you are putting through it.
     
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    With the addition of AI (Aux. injection such as methanol) programmed to spray or inject under boost, the intake temps will actually decrease. On all of our setups utilizing methanol injection, the intake manifolds are icy cold to the touch after multiple passes on the dyno. The prolonged increase in engine bay temps due to the turbochargers is indeed relevant though, along with boost pressures inside the plenums. Should be interesting to see!
     
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    I know that supra, Im on supraforums. Your work is flawless the fit and finish on the kit looks TOP NOTCH.
     
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    If the boost remains at sane levels im sure it wont be a problem. If it enters the realm of 20psi and over Id probably start to wonder. but an enzo with those turbos and 20lbs of boost... we might be asking how the transmission holds... and axles and engine mounts and... and... and... and...
     
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    5000TT that is some beautiful work!
     
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    Agreed. I think twin GT35R's would be perfect.
     
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    I think 35r's would spool quickly and all... but run out of steam to quickly. Plus, you would have to turn up the boost for serious power, which would then just ad more heat... These would be great though if the tranny and rest of the components are limited to say 800-900hp. Otherwise... i think we need to move up. Plus... i am a fan of external wastegates. I HATE internal gates. there are many more cool tricks you can do with external vs internal gates
     
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    Thanks 'lover and 'waterfall.

    Im with you technom. If 900 plus or minus was the power goal, then the GT35's would be fine. High boost not required, with minimal to no lag...
    For anything serious, a pair of GT4088R's or 42's would fit the bill quite nicely with dual 50mm Synapse gates (agreed... no thanks on the internal gates).
    Making big, reliable numbers is easy. Going through the rest of the system and determining which components would need to be upgraded to handle the power would be the fun part.
     
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    Very interested to see the manifold design and layout for these. What material is used?
    Also, what are the turbo specs? I realize this has been asked before, but I don't think its been posted as of yet, my bad if it has been.
    More info, more pics, keep it comin...:)
     
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    Twin 62mm's like they put on the gallardos wouldnt be a bad idea either. It all depends on how much whp he wants to go for if hes shooting for enermous numbers 67 mm's would be good. Im reall intersted to see what has been done to the trans, motor, and axles to take the extra horsepower
     
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    So, any new pictures???
     
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    There probably won't be any new pictures for a long time. Mr Losee has requested that no pictures be posted.
     
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    That sir is true car porn!!
     
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    Bummer. Why the new silence?
     
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    From what I understand, and I may be wrong, pictures were never supposed to be taken/posted due to the secretive nature of the project. There are a few FChatters that can explain it a lot better than I can. :)
     

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