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  1. joe sackey

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    #6851 joe sackey, Nov 22, 2009
    Very very cool. The first owner's touches live on.

    174 mph: I think he read the telex Bob Wallace sent to the USA concessionaire in 1968 stating that ANY Miura should be able to do 174!
     
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    #6852 alberto, Nov 22, 2009
    With what, afterburners?
     
  3. joe sackey

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    #6853 joe sackey, Nov 22, 2009
    I agree that Wallace was being optimistic.

    In 1967 Motor magazine got the P400 to 171 mph, but in 1968 Road & Track achieved just 163 mph.

    The S was a bit faster and in 1970 Autocar saw 172 mph, the same year Road & Track recorded 168 mph, and Car magazine got 176 mph.
     
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    #6856 Lel, Nov 23, 2009
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    Hello!

    Not just Lamborghini with his staff but also Bizzarrini, as seen in your pic, deTomaso, the little english Diva and probably a lot more used the well discussed inverted wishbone system for the rear suspension. I took a look at one of my Mangustas the other day and was surprised how similar the rear suspension looked to the LP400.

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    #6857 thewarlord, Nov 24, 2009
    Hi,

    In the preface to Joe Sackey's book about the Miura -I am sorry I still haven't got it- Claudio Zampolli tells about an unborn evolution called 'Miura E'.

    I wonder if anybody knows anything further about this unborn evolved Miura.

    Thank you,

    david
     
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    #6858 joe sackey, Nov 24, 2009
    Claudio touched on it but never elaborated. Thats a question he must answer...
     
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    #6860 Miura1960, Nov 27, 2009
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    I´d just bought the new Jota Magazine - it´s great! But I wonder about the declaration that Bob´s Jota had chassis number 4683 and not 5084!

    What´s fact, Joe? You already gave the information in your bible at page 147 that 5084 just was claimed to be the original Jota.

    So - was 4683 the correct chassis?
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  11. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #6861 Olivier NAMECHE, Nov 27, 2009
    1st mistake : VIN #4808 is NOT a Jota or SV-J... just a swiss importer conversion !!!
     
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    #6862 joe sackey, Nov 27, 2009
    Sounds like somebody is simply trying to make 4683 famous.

    In my book I note that 5084 is "claimed by many" to be the original Jota. I'm not one of the many!

    I think the Jota was built from scratch as a 'Sperimentale'.
     
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    #6863 joe sackey, Nov 27, 2009
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    By the way, the chapters in the Miura book entitled "Jota - burning the midnight oil" and "Modificato - modified by the works" covers the subject matter of the original Jota and all the Jota-modified SVs in an effort to put it in perspective: the original was a seriously flawed experimental (likely the exact reason it crashed at speed), and all the so-called SVJs are cosmetically modified SVs.
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    #6864 Miura1960, Nov 27, 2009
    Thx for the clarification, Joe!

    Best regards Jochen ;o))
     
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    #6865 joe sackey, Nov 27, 2009
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    Jochen: Also I think I was at pains to point out that the chassis numbers I offered for the Jota-modified cars was only a partial list!
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    #6869 Miura1960, Nov 28, 2009
    That´s right, Joe. Best jota-regards - Jochen
     
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    #6870 joe sackey, Nov 28, 2009
    And Seasons Greetings to you & yours!
     
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    #6871 eam3, Nov 28, 2009
    Did you mean Renny Ottolina? As I have heard the story, he brought the car into Venezuela as a "race car" so he would be able to bypass all the import fees and red tape. He would then enter it in a race, run one lap and retire with "mechanical" trouble. That would be the end of the car's race history and it would join his regular drivers' stable.
     
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    #6873 joe sackey, Dec 1, 2009
    A Venezuelan Miura owner sent his Miura P400 back to Sant Agata and an SV returned in its place using the same chassis number as the P400.
     
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    #6875 raymondQV, Dec 4, 2009
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    Tree true legends (hint: not the LM)...
     
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