Miura, the original supercar

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Michael,
I like this topic and I believe you are confusing some facts :
* engine rebuilt has been done many times at different period by factory on several models, not only once !
* "recognized" => you mean "identified as"... but still not "legitimate as original"
* factory has NOT performed these modifications, so it's still a notification that was reported in the speudo factory file, BUT not reported as well on the factory built sheet.
* anybody who wants to make a spyder today from a Miura that will ask for recommandations from factory will get it today either... nothing thrilling !
* speaking about God's permission... I never heard somebody waiting for a permission to make something on a Lambo, did Affolter ask for before making these ugly Diablo ? I just try to imagine your ex boss Wicki praying for the absolute approuval from "God" in order to scalp his Miura...overwise he won't have it done...

sorry but I disagree with your story, as Joe said : end of story !

 

I still remember your SCM writeup on it - good stuff!

 

Michael, I think you got it the wrong way round (reminds me of the story with the Diablo GT...)
The factory had no cars on their own those days, everything went directly to the customers who waited up to 18 month for the delivery of the already paid cars. Lambo Motors had very good connections to Leimer/Rosetti and a lot of clients from germany too.
So it was more than normal that on the Lambo stand in Geneva customer cars were presented, in that circumstance also #4808.
Zenari did not ask the factory if he's allowed to chop it, he simply had it done. End of the story.

I hardly believe that Wicki had the engine at the factory, more likely the mechanic of lambo motors revised the engine, but I'm anxious to see the scans you mentioned.

 

hello,
As I had said the documents in hand are at 2001,
But I have not made a copy of the document (for compliance) was my biggest woe
the current owner must have all the documents because it was good to have with the car when Wicky jean sold the car ..
I do not say any more than the car has had done at the factory, but the written document exists proving their agreement amendment Spyder, with instructions to respect

I contact someone who can keep a copy to file

English is not a language I metrised correctly
and the translator did not turn words into their real meaning

 

The subject is not diablo,
BUT

But without waiting for the horrible things he does he will not have ny dashboard on the model after 94/95, non-retractable headlights, fenders large. ... And I do not even speak of pearl colors Orange and Yellow Pearl
I can make a very long list of improvements made by Affolter recovery by the plant that helped make it visually more beautiful Diablo
But as said this is not the n subjects

« Les gouts et les couleurs sont au grée de chacun »

 

the very best thing for this car would be no modifications at all.. it started its life already perfect..

 

Exactly
quite agree with you

 

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Lost in Translation...

 

This reminds me of a similar discussion about 4808 on VLG a few years back. As I recall, it went something like this:

1) Someone does a writeup on 4808 making the same claim of Factory provenance ( I can't remember who exactly, I'll have to check)
2) Big argument along exactly the same lines ensues. Pasani gets so flustered that he leaves group.
3) We learn that the person arguing case for factory provenance appears to be brokering the car, or otherwise may have a financial interest
4) People get tired of posting about it, and move on to other topics, leaving things unresolved.

I don't recall anything more significant offered as proof of the claim at that time either, except that we all could agree that the car was on display at a Lamborghini stand at one time (looking completely different then it does now).

 

OK,
Lets vote, just a PERSONAL meaning yes or no..

1) do you like 4808 the way it looked after first modification with the wing?
2) do you like the way it looks now?
3) do you think this car is better than a stock P400S?
4) would you buy this car?
5) do you like the history of this car?
6) would you prefer this car instead of a original P400S?
7) has this car anything to do with a SVJ?
8) are the beautifull lines from the miura still there?
9) would it be a good driver?

Sorry Michael, you seems to be very optimistic about this car but MY answer for all questions is: no, to me this car is like a countach LP400 converted to a aniversario targa i just can't love it......

 

This is my weiv of the subject

1) Kind of, very 80th.
2) No.
3) No.
4) No.
5) Its good there is a story after all.
6) No.
7) No.
8) No.
9) No.

 

I don't understand, why would you all care so much about this car. If the owner likes it as it is, what does it matter?

 

for sure he must like it when you know that he spent already a lot of €€€ => price from Autodromes and then has it "resprayed" by Lecocq for extra €€€ (remember it was about 300 labor hours)

1) Not at all with that tail
2) Yes why not...
3) Not at all
4) Never
5) Yes, story is good and facts are clear evidences
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) Not that much and I can tell also after the day spent at Spa with it, the owner had difficulties to fit back the roof... too much flexibility from rear T top & chassis as well !

 

1st pic when was passenger for the 1st time
2nd pic I'm driving it progressively from "learning it" to "hard/hot driving" after few laps !
wheel aligment was good as it went straight while throttling/braking
Nevertheless all what we can say, it was still an experience to live, any how is the result !
Ciao
Olivier - LCB
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