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Acceleration: F40, F50, Enzo, CGT & Veyron

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Bill S, Aug 30, 2009.

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  1. Napolis

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  2. Bill S

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    Let me start out by saying its very impressive for some one to take their F40 to the drag track. His reaction time doesnt have any affect in the cars total time theres beams that as soon as the car crosses a certain point they start the time. With that trap the car could possably go low 11's with a very very low sixty foot and a very.
     
  5. SSNISTR

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    #180 SSNISTR, Dec 9, 2009
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    Cool, another USA guy not afraid to take his F40 down the 1/4, close times to what I saw too.


    Reaction time doesn't affect ET, timer starts when the wheels break the beam....


    EDIT: Just saw his 2.1 60' time, that is crappy for the power. I'm sure he bogged it or spun to get a 2.1. With practice, that 2.1 becomes a 1.9 and that equates to about an 11.6/7 easily....


    So I think a well driven Euro car should hit mid 11's easily.
     
  6. SSNISTR

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    #181 SSNISTR, Dec 9, 2009
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    The better R&T F40 time is not reflected there though. 11.7 @ 126.5.
     
  7. Bill S

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    Sorry, I left that out because it's probably a Euro car based on where that F40 came from. I was only recording US cars in the table, except for the F1 until I dig up the US test data for that.
     
  8. SSNISTR

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    Well we don't know that for sure, maybe add that time with a little * LOL?
     
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    Thanks! Do you think that F40 is a European F40? It was owned by Michael Gabel, the vice president of the German Ferrari Owners Club.

    The test said the cars must pass the European emissions (not US emissions). Do European F40s have some type of catalytic converter?
     
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    #187 F40 LeMans, Dec 10, 2009
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    The F40 tested was an EU F40 without cats.
    In Europe we have two F40s (cats was producted after 1991), with cats and without cats. NO cats is faster. But I think you (US-spec) have particular type of catalytic converter, good for your US emissions.
    Here we consider the standing Km (0-1000 mt; about 3280 feet) and EU F40 are able to 20.6-20.9s range. Your C&D test is only 21.4 seconds able.
    A Japan car with cat converter is able of 21.01s in a BM video.
     
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  14. Bill S

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    Thanks, I thought that might explain the faster times for that particular R&T test. The US catalytics in 1991 did not flow very well. So, there are actually 3 versions of F40s?

    1. US F40s with US cats
    2. EU F40s with EU cats
    3. EU F40s with no cats

    How do you know the R&T test was for #3? The article says they only tested cars for #2:

    "...the cars in attendance would have to be street-legal everywhere in Europe... They must be equipped with cataytic converters and other emissions-control equipment enabling them to pass European sniff tests."
     
  15. F40 LeMans

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    #191 F40 LeMans, Dec 10, 2009
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    Yes, are 3 version. There are the options of plexi or glass windows (in particulary for the no-cats cars).

    IF I remember well, it was written in the F1, F40, 959, F18 comparo by R&T...when they drove it again..
    BUT.....now i'm not so sure... maybe I'm wrong, I should confirm.
     
  16. joe sackey

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    Strictly speaking there are just 2 production variants of the F40.

    1. USA
    2. ROW

    The deletion of the cats does not make for a seperate production variant. Some ROW cars had cats deleted, and some didn't, depending on where the car was going. Post 1991 most, but not all, of the ROW cars had cats. As F40 Le Mans alludes to, some of the early ROW cars (approximately the first 50) had plexi door windows with red-painted door panels. Again, just a spec difference, but not a completely different variant.
     
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    I think you have explained better, because I have some translation problems.
    Anyway. You, Americans you have only a type of car and only with cats converter.
    Here, we have some no-cats with plexi, some no-cats with glass windows (not many) some cats with plexi (not many and perhaps replaced) and most cats with glass windows. My car is the 1st example. When I bought it, in 1990, I chose no-cat with the plexi variant, but I could have one of the first catalytic. If I choose this, I probably had glass windows.
    The difference between them, EU too, is the chassis difference for the wastegate position, that in the EU-cat is the same of the US, for the cat conversion place. And the gearbox gear ratio. Shorter in the cat car.
     
  18. SSNISTR

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    Isn't the ROW car really called the Euro car? What I always have read, on here and in books.

    USA spec and Euro spec.

    Also it wasn't just the first 50 or so that had the sliding windows. It was an "option" and some later cars had them too. I know of a '91 Euro car that came with them from the factory.
     
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    I know what it meant....
     
  21. joe sackey

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    ROW or Eu, whatever you like.

    There wasn't a model designation with Ferrari SpA any different from just "F40". The USA cars were referred to internally as "Tipo USA".
     
  22. SSNISTR

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    Got ya, thanks.
     
  23. joe sackey

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    Ryan: I used that magical word that one must use with our favorite cars from Italy - "approximately". Yes, I'm aware that some cars outside the first 50 had plexi windows.
     
  24. F40 LeMans

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    #200 F40 LeMans, Dec 11, 2009
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    True, my car is an half production car and is no-cat with plexi doors windows.
    Are still few cars produced.

    Infact. You explained it well initially... for the production lines F40s are only two, F40 and "Tipo USA F40", but here we have more variants.
    Here, cat version for us is a variant, when we go for "services", for some spare parts. Anyway is not the same car.
     

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