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575m Speeometer change from mph to kph

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  1. 575

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    Hi All

    I am a new forum member from Australia and this is my first post.

    I have imported a 575 from the UK to Australia and I am wondering if you can help me with your vast reserves of accumulated knowledge?

    My question is . Can the odometer be set to read either mph or kph through the software in the car or a scan tool or do I have to change the drive gear for the speedometer ?

    Thanks
     
  2. creafield

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    Greetings 575 and welcome to F'chat.

    If the car was a personal import to AUS, then you did NOT have to go through the $27K RAWS system. Under this sytem ..ie just a routine trip to the UK, buy a car bring it back, pay a heap of duty/GST/Luxury car tax it then has to undergo the approval process to meet Australian ADRs. When this happens the car has the speedo changed as well as the exhaust Cats, and a standard system if you have say a Tubi etc., etc., until you get to about $25K PLUS parts.

    I am thinking because you have the car here and want to change it yourself, it is a personal import, in which case you will still have to change the whole instrument cluster as it is all electronic and the odometer has to be reset blah blah.

    I suspect you will have to go through the dealar for this to be done seamlessly(and expensively) ... otherwise when you are cruising along do the calculation 37mph to KPH is 37 x 1.6093 = 59.5kph. As I understand it repeatedly doing this conversion helps keep Alzheimers at bay :)

    Regards
    Philip C
    PS If it was a W220 Mercedes S class it is a simple switch in the "user menu"
    PPS Put up some photos and your VIN and Assembly No. for the guru's "little black book".
     
  3. 575

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    #3 575, Dec 14, 2009
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    Hi Creafield

    The car is going through the raws approval system but I was told that it may be possible to change the odometer reading to kph with the scan tool as the Uk models have the speedometer in both mph and kph.

    Cheers

    P.S will post photos /details when the car is registered
     
  4. Dave 456

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    #4 Dave 456, Dec 14, 2009
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    Ah, if it was only so easy....

    Does the Merc have a digital speedo? I know that digital Citroens can be changed between kph & mph via the menu.

    Having never even sat in a 575, I'm sorry that I cant contribute much - except does it matter? - there are only 3 or 4 speeds that actually count. After 80 mph all that counts is the size of the fine and after 100 mph all that counts is how long you don't have a licence..

    You could always try to remember the gearing in different gears and get speed from the tacho -well, no, I couldn't either.

    Have you had the speedo changed? I'm a bit surprised that didn't change the odo as well.
     
  5. tazandjan

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    #5 tazandjan, Dec 14, 2009
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    575- US and UK speedometers are marked in both mph and kph, mph on the outside and kph on the inside. The yellow markings are kph.

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  6. greyboxer

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    I'm not sure but OP may be asking if the mileage can be changed from miles to km ie the digital number in the speedo
     
  7. tazandjan

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    Jimmie- Sorry. On my Blackberry and did not read carefully. The speedometer, odometer, other instruments, and warning lights and symbols are controlled by a chip on the instrument panel. Search for FAI, F.A.I., and Franchorchamps America Inc. Give them a call or e-mail them and they should be able to tell you what needs to be done.

    Taz
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  8. 575

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    Thanks Terry

    I will try to find FAI.

    Cheers
     
  9. creafield

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    In 2008 I went to England to buy a 575 and I thoroughly researched this process. In the end I decided that it was easier to buy a local car, in fact as it turned out a car that was originally registered in Hong Kong and returned as a personal import.

    The instrument cluster has to be replaced as it does not meet Ausutralian ADRs (Australian Design rules). The speedo is in MPH and even though there is an inner ring of KPH The Australian Gov. says ... no deal. The least of your problems is the Odometer changing from kilometres to Miles (which it cannot do in the menu anyway)
    All the inner workings of the cluster may be electonic, but the physical display is painted. The display on the W220 Mercedes is completely electronic and a very neat backlit system. When you press the KPH to MPH button, the whole display changes to suit. The downside is when the display goes "on the blink" you have a completely black instrument cluster, as I did during a 600km drive back home a couple of years ago.

    Similarly the oil press. oil and water temp are in Imperial system and again the Oz Gov. says no deal!! ... So I am afraid it will be a new cluster and it is a bit of a bugger to get it set up for your car as well, as the factory has to adjust the odometer as well.

    Of course as Dave 456 points out (quite rightly) you need to change the odometer as well from imperial to metric !! As my Alzheimers is getting reasonably advanced I don't have the luxury of buying an imperial car and converting to metric, I even have problems with the indicator stalk being on the wrong side!! I have even forgotten how much my car cost!!

    Could I suggest that you speak to the Ferrari importers ATECO, 02-8577 8105 is the dealer in Sydney and should be able to transfer you on.

    Who is doing your RAWS certification .. Are they the company in Revesby, Sydney, or the one in Qld. These are the only ones registered to do 550/575's. I suspect your company is doing its first one and they are doing it to get "RAWS certification"?? Ie it will take about 6 months??

    Do you have an accurate estimate of parts that are needed. You may not need Cat converters (if car is <5 yo), however you will definitely need a standard exhaust if it is modified, and a heap of other things are tested etc. I believe the 456 needs an intrusion bar welded into the two doors, and the doors repainted.

    This is required of ALL Ferraris newer than 1989 imported into Australia under the RAWS system, and this is not year indexed!!

    Philip C
     
  10. 575

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    Hi Creafield

    Thanks for the heads up I will make some more enquiries.

    Cheers
     
  11. tazandjan

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    Last time I looked, there was a new metric instrument panel on E-Bay Deutschland for less than retail, but still relatively expensive.

    One of our Australian FChatters bought an ex-UK 575M recently. You should ask him.

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  12. rustybits

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  14. 575

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    Thanks Rustybits.

    Thats a good link.They mention a device to convert the signal to the odometer in order to change from kph to mph . I will enquire about preforming the modification the other way around.

    Cheers
     
  15. Schmick325

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    I know a RAWS certified shop on the Gold Coast and they put in a new KM/PH cluster into their 550's
     
  16. 575

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    Terry

    Your yellow tacho face looks great.

    Where did you source your yellow tacho face from?.

    I have looked on the net and can not find the same one as yours with the correct redline and 100rpm increments.


    Cheers
     
  17. tazandjan

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    #17 tazandjan, Jan 25, 2010
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    575- Mine is an original 575 Superamerica instrument cluster, which was available with yellow or red tach, and has standard carbon fiber. Mine came out of a car after the panel failed and FAI rebuilt it for me. It had a circuit board failure/fire due to an assembly error. Dumb luck finding one. Henry clued me in on it. FAI rebuilt it and reprogrammed the odometer for me.

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  18. 575

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    That's great luck Terry.
    I'll have to keep an eye out for one.

    cheers
     
  19. greyboxer

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    There are stories in the UK about 575 odometers defaulting to km when the battery goes flat which suggests there might be a software option
     
  20. 575

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    I have spoken to FAI in the USA (thanks Terry) and they said that they can reflash the cluster for the odometer to read in Km . They require the odometer to be intact so they can do an accurate conversion of the mileage.

    cheers
     
  21. tajaro

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    I know it's been said- but Terry's yellow tach looks so fantastic you should get that done too! I wish I could find a way to do my 456 tach- it's just so great looking!

    Envious...
     
  22. 575

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    Yes I Know It looks awesome.I wish I could get one.
     

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