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Countach, the ultimate supercar

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  1. 87-Countach

    87-Countach Karting

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    Its completely KaPut. It must come out unfortunately.

    Thanks to everyone for all the help.
     
  2. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Ugh. Good luck with it and hopefully when fixed you wont have to worry about it for years to come.

    Did you notice if the starter still has its heat shield/shroud?
     
  3. woodlands_vt

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  4. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    You are preaching to the choir as far as Annivesarios are concerned. Great cars.

    By the way, love that little Fiat in orange with brown leather. Thats the exact livery of my Countach! Very nice.
     
  5. EMILIO

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    ciao Luigi

    splendide macchine!!!

    Emilio
     
  6. Jota 5084

    Jota 5084 Formula 3

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    We need to see some pics of youre CT! :)
     
  7. Peter K.

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    This VERY important. My car has no heat sheild and must be addressed. Make sure they install something, heat shield or wrap the starter. I would like to do both. These starters are not the greatest for these cars.
    On another note about the repair. If the motor comes out...take advantage and do every service that can be done during a motor out. Even the clutch if money is not a problem. When mine was out for a clutch, I had done everything possible. Even painted in there. All coolant hoses were replaced, etc.
     
  8. 2NA

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    It's not surprising that the heat shield is missing since it is a bit of a hassle to reinstall.

    It is however critical to preserving the starter and should be replaced.

    While I'm not opposed to restoring the engine bay area if it needs to be done, it isn't really necessary to remove the engine to remove the starter. It's the off-season for most of us and an appropriate time for a Winter project if your checkbook is up to it. Just don't make it into a bigger project than you need to.
     
  9. LP400S

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    Very nice stable! The CT in White/White is my favorite color combo :)
     
  10. raymondQV

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  11. EMILIO

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    On the subject of the Countach did anyone catch Mythbusters last night? It had a minor Countach content when they were testing the scene from Cannonball Run 3 to see if a car can skip accross a pool of water. I thought amusing when they tore up the LP400 model to bring it to scale weight.
     
  13. raymondQV

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    Any Countach model looks better than the Reventon, and doubtless the Turbo is faster... the owner of the Reventon drove the Turbo and was deeply impressed.
     
  14. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    The starter's proximity to super-hot headers slow-roasting it away mean your guaranteeing yourself trouble without a shield/shroud.

    Tim what material used have you seen? I have seen both aluminum and fiberglass.
     
  15. joe sackey

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  16. joe sackey

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    #5116 joe sackey, Dec 17, 2009
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    No, but what I did catch was ANOTHER genuine LP400 in-the-wild spotting yesterday, at the Euclid on-ramp to the 405 Freeway in So California at precisely 315pm heading southbound. I can tell you a lot of cellphone cameras were pointed at it!
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  17. 2NA

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    #5117 2NA, Dec 17, 2009
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    The OEM shield is a combination of aluminum on the outside with a layer of insulation (some sort of composite material approx. 1/8" thick) on the side nearest the starter.

    Here's a picture that you posted a while back that shows a new shield in place. I have seen them painted black but for maximum effect I'd prefer it be left shiny. The edges of the shield are folded over, apparently to hold the insulation material in place.

    The ceramic coating on the pipes probably has a small insulating effect as well although I'm reluctant to believe it's as great as the coating guys claim.
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  18. Jalpa_Mike

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    Would it help to put that "Jet Hot" coating on that shield with their "Sterling Silver finish"? That stuff really repels heat.

    Mike
     
  19. 2NA

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    I suppose you could but I doubt it would make a big difference as long as there was insulation on the shield.
     
  20. mcg

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    ex-Silvera?
     
  21. ApexOversteer

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    What is with them being on flatbeds when you see them lately?
     
  22. mikael82

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    I did took out starter from my car, I did it sametime I chaged left side fueltank and all fuel lines (<- one can not over advertise to chage fuellines for fire safety!) It is very complex work and takes huge a mount of time. If I'll have to do it again I'll take engine out, it is easyer.

    Frustrating was to find that starter was ok, but with my experience with various cas and starters I did asume starter was gone, but no...

    Here was reason for my stareter problem:
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    See the copper wires? they where oxydised between clamp holdin it. It is actually shameful to take perfectly good starter out of the car just for just smal thing... so do check ALL cables first.
     
  23. Jota 5084

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    Nice, same colour as the little Fiat mentioned before ;-)
     
  24. 2NA

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    #5124 2NA, Dec 17, 2009
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    Those "bolt-on" cable ends are meant only for an emergency fix, they will invariably fail after a while. The positive battery cable on a Countach runs most of the length of the car and you can't afford any voltage drop from high-resistance connections.

    It's a good practice to clean and tighten both battery connections (and the place the ground cable attaches to the frame) anytime there are any electrical problems. More often than not this will fix it. Even if it doesn't it's the first step to the real repair.
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  25. joe sackey

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    Very sound advice.
     

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