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  1. rbellezza

    rbellezza F1 Rookie

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    I have a question to all the 348/355 brotherhood great experts out there !
    If your budget is limited and you can only afford just one upgrade for now ....
    Would you replace the cats with High Flow ones or the muffler ?
    Which choice of the two will give a better throttle response ?
     
  2. DonJuan348

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    test pipes and K&N filter ...

    BUT for the price of most exhaust systems only , you can buy hi flows and exhaust from Gothspeed $2500 or buy Nuovalari Engineering exhaust for $1200
     
  3. PAP 348

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    Id get an exhaust. That will give you more performance and better throttle response than just fitting test pipes. :):)
     
  4. Ricambi America

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    I think you'll get more 'enjoyment' from the sound of a new exhaust too.
     
  5. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes!! That is more important IMO! :eek::eek:
     
  6. DonJuan348

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    +1
     
  7. rbellezza

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    #7 rbellezza, Jan 1, 2010
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    I was thinking about Gothspeed exhaust system ...... but why on the Hyper Flows comments, they say you get more throttle response ? Isn't that true then ?
     
  8. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    Go goth.....the only true custom available.....you won't regret it!
     
  9. Philip Barnard-Browwn

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    In a nutshell. +1

    I just put a Nouvalari exhaust on. Fallen in love again. Cannot stop driving it.
    Short sound clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6paYcyDia4
     
  10. DonJuan348

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    it sounds awesome . More throatier then mi X-ost. Just as a teaser list the price. I was amazed as to reasonably priced these are...
     
  11. PAP 348

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    That sounds awesome mate. :):)
     
  12. Philip Barnard-Browwn

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    I paid £600. But i was lucky to get it at the old price. Gone up a little I believe.
     
  13. Philip Barnard-Browwn

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    #13 Philip Barnard-Browwn, Jan 2, 2010
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  14. sambomydog

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    That sounds mighty fine mate:) Surly there must be companies of Grenadiers that want to shoot you in the wee hours of the mornings when you start her up;);)
     
  15. jmiff348

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    #15 jmiff348, Jan 2, 2010
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    The Nouvalari sounds great! Where did you get it? The Nouvalari website doesn't list one for a 348.
     
  16. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I agree
     
  17. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    My statements come from what I have read over the years, 10 years of racing my converted 348 racecar, and years of racing a Z06 vette, and limited drag racing as a 20y/o.

    You can tune an engine for max power/torque with open headers and you can't beat those numbers with any additional exhaust system. Exhausts do not make power. So they are a neccessary evil you try an minimize. But you have to have an exhaust system even in racing because of rules like noise or on street like pollution control. So It's headers first, remove restriction 2nd ie better flowing cats, exhaust last. Too big of pipes slow exh gas velocity down and create a restriction just as bad as too small a pipe with high velocity. Pipe size is a balance too. Exhaust fall mostly into reflectors and absorbers. Absorbers (like old school glasspack) tend to maintain flow and have the least impact but attenuate noise least.

    The 348 has a unique and easy engine bay config for exh mods. I think one of the cheapest best systems you can run on a 348 is either no cats and exhaust or hyperflow cats and exhaust. My favorite is no cats and two racemuffs or two of these and two hyperflows on a streetcar:
    http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1021_1033_1054&products_id=290

    The setup is simple, cats on headers, straight pipe to mufflers done!

    Other exh may "sound" cool but nothing matches the free flow, LIGHT design that gets heat out of your engine bay. A cool running engine is a better running engine, a light car is a faster car and these are light at the right spot on the car too. Crossovers are nice but in pipes this short I see no reason to add the extra crossover weight and don't see any performance gain.

    I happen to love these cats more than hyperflows and you will love the price:
    http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Brand/Vibrant-Performance-Catalytic-Converters/Metal-Core-High-Flow-Catalytic-Converter

    I can weld so this whole set-up with cats costs me about $400 bucks. I don't think you can beat that performance, lightweight, simplicity, engine bay cooling and EPA compliance for 400 bucks.
     
  18. Philip Barnard-Browwn

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    I rang direct. John Gough is the guy's name.
     
  19. DonJuan348

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    thanks Phil, a friend of mine buy one and it was $1300 which great compare all other exhausts out there ...if I was keeping mi car I would buy one
     
  20. flyguyskt

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    so where do you get the nouv from? link please
     
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  22. Mitch Alsup

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    The biggest performance boost you can give either a F348 or an F355 is to send the driver and car to a road race track for lessons. For the price of an exhaust, one can get about 5-7 track weekends and lessons and be a significantly better, faster driver.
     
  23. sambomydog

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    LOL I knew it was only a matter of time before some one mentioned that old line, very surprised it took 2 days :D
     
  24. rbellezza

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    Nice, nice, nice !
     
  25. rbellezza

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    Ha ha , you got the Hi flow cats as well I see ...
     

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