Key less Fog + Programming, How Much it should be?

If you do not have the red fob and the PIN you are screwed. You will need to buy a complete alarm kit for about $1500 bucks with 3 blks, 1 red and 1 alarm ecu..

 

I don't know, but it's called a Fob not a "Fog."

Steve

 

If you don't want to spend the $1500 you may be able to bypass the system. I will bypass mine on my 550 one of these days. If you want to try that...I bet a couple of us could get together and give it a try.

 

You can also "buy" the pin code, my Ferrari dealer charged $500, then a new set of fobs for around $650.

 

Estelius- Key fob 101.

Taz
Terry Phillips
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That is unconscionable. From the VIN or Assembly Number (with positive proof of ownership) FNA can obtain the correct PIN from Ferrari, Spa. There is no reason for the dealer to charge for this information.

To the OP, try to contact FNA in Englewood Cliffs, NJ directly. They may be able to help you. If you can obtain the original PIN, then you can use your key to enter the original PIN into the system to set the alarm ECU into LEARN mode. By purchasing a new set of three Fobs (1 Red Master, 2 Black Slaves), you can reprogram your Alarm ECU to recognize the PIN of the NEW Red Master Alarm Fob.

Do a search on FChat (best bet) or look in your Owner's Manual for the procedure. There are a few "tricks" involved. I recently reprogrammed my 1998 F355 Alarm ECU as I had only one Black Fob (but I had my original PIN).

Good luck.

EDIT: Thanks for posting that Link, Terry.

 

I'm sorry you guys are right. If you can get the pin from FNA it was like $600 bucks plus the cost of the FOB pack which was another 500 bucks iirc. The problem is FNA is very sketchy with keeping and getting you pins even after you pay! Then when they can't produce the pin they keep your money and credit it to the alarm kit for full FNA price on the kit vs. what you can get the kit for from eurospares etc... which iirc was 1500 bucks. Ferrari alarms are a total racket and like the F1 shifter... a retirement account for ferrari.

Anyway the OP should do his due diligence and check out trying to get the pin from FNA. I bet it is either harder than it should be or unobtainable. If you can get the pin all problems can be easily solved. I know several who have tried and failed. If the OP wants a couple of Fchaters to come down and try a bypass and get rid of the alarm parasite forever email me directly. [email protected]

 

FNA no longer performs that service for free. They charge the dealers and it is just being passed on.

 

Brian is correct. Plus, if they do not want to bother, here is the CYA bulletin saying they do not have to do it at all. Unless they want to for a valued customer, of course. Note there is a complete Alarm ECU and matched fob set on FerrariAds. $1800. The bulletin contains an error, because with no PIN, a new Alarm ECU is required as part of the "wireless kit". Cloning is a much better option in that case. A set of three fobs with no PIN was for sale on E-Bay yesterday for $250 or so.

Taz
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Taz,

That's more brutal than I thought! The price must have gone up. Stuff is usually a bit cheaper on F ads vs. OE or aftermarket part sources. $1800 bucks is half way to many programable ECU's! One solution is to illegally dump the ferrari ECU's. Then you never get anymore mils, can line feedback from dorky suspension ecu, or that terrible traction control. You can then tune for center muffler deletes and tubi's and intakes and get a bit more horsepower/torque. I can't imagine how much weight i could take out of the car dleting all that stuff too. A 550 racecar is 2500lbs! If my 550 wasn't so darn reliable I'd do it.

 

FBB- No sense crossing your feet to save bullets. The 550s and 575s have been very reliable. Dave's connector kit and hoses should make them even more so. Traction control works fine on the 575M because of the digital throttle. It is actually pretty smooth. The hoses on the 575s were upgraded, too. We shall see how they do.

Incidentally, if anyone needs a remote to clone, here is the first source of new ones I have seen. Do not know if the four digit number after the fobs is their individual PIN or not.

http://www.remote-superstore.com/webstore/search.php?word=ferrari&page=2

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

I sent a message and asked if they have the PIN that is associated with the red fobs. We will see what the response is and I will post when I get a response.

 

Thanks for the correction, Brian. Could you please post your "FNA SUCKS" picture again?

Due to security consideration my ass... LOL

 

They responded and told me that they don't have the PIN codes. Too bad

 

John- At least they can be used for cloning.

Estrelius- With no fob and no PIN, you are indeed screwed. If you had the PIN, you could use the E-Bay set and have a working set of three. You would then not know the PIN for future use, bu cloning could keep you alive for a long time.

You can buy the set in FerrariAds and speed up the procedure, but would probably have to get a dealer to install it at any rate. If the dealer will do it for $2000 installed, that is a good deal. Will take a while to get a kit from Italy.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

I may be totally wrong on this, but apparently my radio code was disrupted at the dealership when they did service on my 430 and right before I left with it, the salesman noticed and entered the code to reactivate my radio. He did this without looking in the manual to see what my code was. I don't know if that is the same code as the alarm code or not, but apparently he knows a "universal code" that at least can reactivate the radio when its been disconnected from the battery. Maybe there's one for the alarm, too. Brian?

 

Wow! I'm surprised at the current ferrari raping and pillaging for the alarm kit. I agree with Taz. You are screwed with no pin and no fob. So to my understanding is new kit 2k or we bypass it. I'm thinking heart bypass by the way.

 

Well, San Diego Ferrari has my car right now, and according to them I will have my alarm pin and new set of fobs in 2 weeks (as I noted earlier they charged me $500 for the pin).

I will update this post when that happens, or if anything changes.

 

Mark- Good for you. You must fit into the valued customer category. Of course, you will still be out the $500 and the $550 or so for the three fobs and new PIN, but you will be set pretty much forever. Hopefully you will not get charged too much for the five minutes or so it will take to reprogram your Alarm ECU to accept the new alarm fobs. Write the new PIN in the Warranty Book and a few other places.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

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Radio and security codes are different. No universal codes either. I am betting he looked it up in their files before spontaneously showing up to save the day.