Hi I am new here and .i would like to saw you a project I make I drive a 355 since 2 years now , I am really happy with the car but I always had some complains about the engine performance .On a hot days the engine was losing his half power ,it was driving just tired!!! I tried to study this engine and I ended up that a big problem this engine has is the Air Filter Boxes. Ferrari put them exactly on the exhaust system ,the boxes sitting on the exhaust .After a while driving if somebody opens the Hood and tried to touch the boxes his fingers skin will stay on the aluminium .That causes a very high temperature on the input air ,that means very low capacity of air. The other problem is that the only source for air is the two tubes left and right which are too small. So I was thinking for a long time how can I solve this problem, and the only solution I found was to make my own Boxes in an Other Position . I fixed them a little bigger than the OEM for more air Volume and with 2 air entrances, one is the original and one second is coming through the Diffusers!!! I installed them and I drove on the Highway for a test. I WAS DRIVING AN OTHER CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The car has changed completely, it has Torque everywhere without any hole, power until the end, the car has just suddenly waked up. I had the car on the Dyno and the Results were 16Bhp and 22Nm increase. Unfortunately on the Dyno day was very hot, we had room temperature over 35 degrees C the car was on the Limit to overheat and the Air fan was too small, the Project though worked indeed and increased the Power. With ideal temperature conditions and with better material made System (now I run the Prototypes)I am sure that the engine can gain up to 25Bhp. Before I install the System I talked about it with some mechanics and I got as always 100 different opinions .Some said it won´t work some other said you can try it and it might work and some were positive. So I had nothing to lose except my Pride and many for the Project. I can say it was worth it any penny .I am really Proud about my Patent Here is some Pictures to figure out what I am talking about and to discuss it too. Best regards Themis Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I have seen that before. Have you posted up pictures of your car before, or have you copied it from some one else? I have definitely seen them pictures or pictures like it before. I recognise the fabricated boxes under the corners of the rear bumpers. Yes definitely seen that before.
I have the GruppeM intake and felt the same results. The air box is made out of kevlar and stays warm but never super hot like the stock boxes. Also the GruppeM has a larger volume of air.
That looks pretty darn cool! If this works for the 355, would the 348 benefit from a similar modification or does it not suffer the same problem of heat soak in the vicinity of the air intake filters? All the best, Andrew.
Hi Andrew, i must say that all the Ferrari V8 cars suffer from high temperatures,the filter boxes or they are on the Exhaust or between the Engine and the Exhaust-double heat-,this is why none of these cars have the full power!!! What i tried to do is to take away as much as possible the system from the engine room and from the Exhaust in result to keep the boxes as cold as possible and increase the power
Impressive. My only concern is the location of the intakes at the defusers. The reason is that some owners like to drive in the rain. Being that the 355 sits low, and if the driver happens to got through a puddle, there is a chance that water can get sucked into the engine and hydro-lock. I have heard of this happening on other cars, Hondas for example, that run cold air intakes down to the bottom front of the fender well. Just a thought for you as you may want to rethink the location of the defuser intake.
Question: If the problem is the air boxes get hot, then why not just put insulation around the outside of the air boxes to prevent heat from getting in? The outside bottom and sides exposed to the (stock) muffler would get most of the benefit.
l was very skeptish on the begining about doing there the second intake. i quite solve the problem with a very thin sieve a speciall tube and the paper filter is drying all the humidity too.The filters must be changes though after 10000km. Just 15 cost. I have tried it too. DESASTER!!!!!!!!! there is no place for a thick insulation and the other thing is that i didnt want to bern my car
Very interesting concept. I'd love to see input from Rifle or Dave Helms but conceptually I can see why this would make sense but the devil is in the details. Only issue I see is that this would only work for the manual gearbox guys since the drivers side airbox is right where the F1 pump is.
What are you talking about Willis? Ferraris don't work in the rain. Anyway, why haven't any of you guys run a hose from the washer fluid reservoir and inject dilute alcohol or water mist into the intake? That always makes for good power and it's cheap if you use water and 90% of what you need is already there. We used to do this in the old days and you can feel the difference.
Oh yes son water injection, i remember that trick, used it my self We used a 50% methanol mix with the water to
l have also a solution..... but its still on my head.i havent found yet an F1 car for mesurements. l want to improve and produce first what i fix and then i will get busy with the F1 and with the 360
Doesn't this perform even better on forced induction compared to naturally aspirated? Intriguing concept, I've read about some impressive results on Turbo motors.
Yup...silly gents here try all kinds of expensive upgrades and for less than $10 bucks I can get you power you can feel at the flip of a switch! I'm sure it will work good with F cars because even with piped in cold air the intake systems is usually a series of long pipes to get air to the motor and it gets hot in those engine bays.
You can always do this mod. LOL It's kinda F50 gt or Mclaren F1 style engine and scoop. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Water injection is used in various applications. I myself used it on a turboed V8, as well as a normally aspirated one to. Some turbo road cars like Subaru also use a form water injection system. Its used to spray a mist of water in front of the inter cooler at the front of the car to cool the inter cooler charge.
Interesting web reference: In 1983 Ferrari also claimed to be the first to use water injection. With the cooperation of their fuel supplier Agip they managed to suspend water in the fuel in microscopic emulsified drops in a ratio of 90% gasoline and 10% water. They won the constructors championship. Like Renault they dropped water injection when heavier fuel elements (toluene) came into use.
I have been considering having mine ceramic coated on the outside (like people do with the headers). I tend to think this would help but I don't know of anyone that has done it/confirmed it yet.
