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  1. of2worlds

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    #26 of2worlds, Jan 10, 2010

    How was this resolved?
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  2. RP

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    Gotta trust Marcel.
     
  3. Napolis

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    #28 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
    PF confirmed that the chassis,engine and gearbox that they used to build "P5" recently and that was sold to a Japanese Collector was it's original chassis, engine and gearbox that they discovered in their warehouse and that 0862's chassis was never used to build P5.
     
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    #29 of2worlds, Jan 10, 2010
    Thanks for the details. P5 represents to my eye an interesting evolution of the 'P' car series design theme.
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  5. richardowen

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    #30 richardowen, Jan 10, 2010
    Is this car being sold by private treaty? I can't find it in RM Auction's Arizona sale.
     
  6. Napolis

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    #31 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
    This thread is years old.
     
  7. RP

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    #32 RP, Jan 10, 2010
    I am truly glad you stated this. I thought I was going crazy.

    Due to your hospitality at the intro of P4/5 in Pebble Beach, I had the good fortune to meet Andrea. I asked him this question, P5 is one of my favorite of all Ferrari show cars, I thought he said the car in Japan is as original as it can get except the body was new from original wooden bucks.

    Unfortunetly my memory got blasted after that, so I could not be sure this is what he said or what I imagined. Thanks for giving me some clarity.
     
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    #33 F1tommy, Jan 10, 2010
    Wow..very interesting. What a great story that even fooled a few experts.


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    #34 f308jack, Jan 10, 2010
    Would it be a fair assumption to say that it is the Japanese P5 that can be seen at Classiche in the 2008 yearbook?
    Does anyone have recent photo's of it?
     
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    #35 Boudewijn, Jan 10, 2010
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    Hi Jim,
    This old article might be of interest. Don't know where and when it was published.
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  11. Napolis

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    #36 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
    Hi

    Yes that is the article that RM hung their hat on but it's wrong. I saw the photo's in the PF archives and there's no question that the chassis engine and gearbox remained with PF and were stored in their warehouse until they built up the one that's now in Japan.

    I saw period photo's of the chassis, engine and gearbox, storage photo's of the chassis, engine and gearbox, and more recent photo's of the chassis, engine and gearbox.

    Some of those photo's are in the 0846 papers. I alerted PF to the RM auction claims and they told me they were going to send RM a letter from their legal department but I don't know if they did.

    Best To You and Yours!
     
  12. Napolis

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    #37 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
    Yes. The Japanese owner was discussing having it made into a running car but I don't think that happened.
     
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    #38 Boudewijn, Jan 10, 2010
    Thanks Jim, best to you and yours also, Sal included.
     
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    #40 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
    Yes.
     
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    #41 Randy Forbes, Jan 10, 2010
    Forgetting for the moment, the financial obstacle, I could not own that car and have it not be a running, drivable automobile.

    Different cultures, I suppose...?
     
  17. Napolis

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    #42 Napolis, Jan 10, 2010
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    Interesting question. I discussed Modulo with Andrea and the same issue came up. Modulo was never a functioning car and truning it into one would take a LOT of work and engineering. Modulo is a piece of History but it's not a car. If Andrea was still alive who knows what roads we would have travelled together.

    Dino Competizione was the last PF Prototype Ferrari to be a fully functioning car.

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    #43 Randy Forbes, Jan 10, 2010
    I guess it was good that I didn't know they weren't "real cars" at the time (when P5, 512S and Modulo were released to the public). Even then (at 14-16 years old) I couldn't imagine the Modulo turning its front wheels to negotiate a curve.

    Of those three (3), it's 512S that does it most for me; I'd be quite the fan if you could've pulled that off! I don't know how my wife would take me telling her we're moving to NY, instead of Florida.

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  19. Napolis

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    #44 Napolis, Jan 11, 2010
    512S is in private hands, disassembled for a while, trying to make her a runner? Currently not for sale AFAIK.
     
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    #45 ferrarip4, Jan 11, 2010
    IMHO, one of the most beautiful concepts ever by Pininfarina!
     
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    #48 of2worlds, Apr 20, 2011
    Thank you Wayne!
    It remains to be seen if Ferrari will continue to re-invent the old Pininfarina styling look for new models. Now that Ferrari have appointed their own 'style guy' to interpret the new Ferrari look; he faces some formidable history on the classic Pininfarina design side.
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  24. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    #49 Sire Bruno de Losckley, Apr 21, 2011
    I see the 250 P5 at Geneva in March 1968. it was a real shock to me.
     
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    #50 stevenwk, Apr 22, 2011
    I love everything about the P5. Do we know the owner of the replica P5?

    Perhaps the same gentleman that owns the Abarth 2000 prototipo that is, in fact, a runner at Gallery Abarth?

    Can anyone confirm this for me?
     
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