whats the 357 ...686 ?? ........357 is prob one of the most fun guns to shoot , not lot of recoil and the bullets are easy and cheap to reload ........if our govt gets its way , no one will get the chance to fire a gun ,ever! after they banned all the big cal pistols , i sold both mine , now i just have a couple of old ww2 bolt actions rifles i keep and thats about it ........
It's a 66. Not a lot of recoil? If you fire it with the ammo I mentioned, it will jump out of your hand if you don't hold it tight enough. When I would do it single handed, it would bruise the inside of my hand.
Why would you need the license and why the weaponary overkill? Worried there might be an escaped circus elephant on the rampage in our city?
Andecorp, as a licensed handgun shooter/owner and security company proprieter can you please explain to me how you have a "concealed handgun"permit.......I know there is no such thing in Oz??? Your post was written by someone who fantasises too much I think mate??????????? And if you are a licensed shooter this sort of crap is what gives us shooter a bad name with the authorities.....I'm sure LSD would love to read the stuff you write about? Pete
I'm sorry fellow Fchatters This guy knows nothing about handguns,other than what he learned playing video games I think!! I call B****itter!!! I am ex-military and I've been an armed security professional for over 25 years and proud of it. I'm sorry but this guy's comments indicate to me he fantasises a lot....If I am proven wrong I will humbly and publicly apologize..... How about it Andecorp??? Proof or shut up!!! Pete
I saw the 1st few episodes of that series. The most bogus part was the "software" part. Everything else with the dummy tests were interesting.
686 is best, particularly with Hogue or Pachmayr grips in place of earlier checkered Goncalo alves hardwood - as recoil is minimal - brilliant design disperses energy. There are several variants - including the 686PP 66 is Combat Magnum - a stainless version which doesn't suffer weather pitfalls of the blued Model 19. Both are best suited to 38+ for power. Though K-frames can handle full power loads, those loads require one to work up to them, yet it's not recommended over the long haul, as neither has the beef or proper vent the 686 does to withstand extended shooting of .357.
He did say 12years ago and we know how much the laws have changed since then. Heck you need a permit if you want to but the Transformers Megatron toy! haha Anyway here are all the permits the best I could find is an off duty permit. http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/community_issues/firearms/firearms_permits These days if you don't have your ammo locked in a separate compartment during transport you get reemed.
Speedcore Andecorp claims to be a Victorian.....The Vic firearm laws,especially handgun,are the toughest in Australia.......Every year the government makes it harder and harder for us handgun shooters.....sometimes if I wasn't in the security business I think I wouldn't bother either believe me! Pete
Speedcore What you found on the N.S.W Website is what we call a "Takehome" permit in Victoria...It allows Security guards to take their employers duty pistol home,store in an approved safe and allows them to carry their pistol on them whilst travelling to and from work only....several of my guards have them....it is not a "Concealed Carry" permit in either Vic. or N.S.W. and does not let you carry a pistol anytime you like! Cheers Pete
Ohh I agree with you completely. I just ment maybe prior to 1996 it was different I just have a regular rifle firearms licence but my friend who recently purchased a glock and S&W is pushing for me to get a pistol licence Just "upgrading" to a pistol licence seems like sooo much effort!
The QLD government rules towards handguns has put me off from ever wanting a handgun. I wanted to buy a Glock and shoot at the range. I talked to a few mates here that shoot at the range and they said to apply for the licence etc..etc, but it may take a VERY long time to get your licence. Then, I had to shoot a minimum of so many times per year and if I ever stopped shooting, I had to sell the gun, hand it in or have the firing pin welded up or some ****. If I ever stopped shooting at the range, I would like to keep the gun operational so I can take it up again one day. Saves me buying another gun in the future, especially if you wanted to customise the weapon. Anywho, when I read the pamphlet and rules, I didnt bother with it anymore.
I use my Ferraris almost exclusively on the track (unregistered remember?). I drive everywhere on the roads at the speed limit and can't see the point, or reward in doing otherwise these days. I have a perfectly clean license as a result, which must be a rare thing in the Police state.
I don't need the apologies of a close minded fool who at your age is STILL working security and you just managed to get a 308. Think about it! I stopped security when I was 25, as the money was crap (although I bet you my contracts were worth way more than yours are - look at your 308), and besides it's an industry for people that don't have the intellect for anything better. And I give armed security guards a bad name? How exactly have I done that? And even if I'd have, which I haven't, are you scared that more rules would come in, and you'd lose your guns, so you would lose any kind of power you have, plastic cop? I have no idea what the laws are now, but 12 years ago, when the 'incident' mentioned above happened, my security company had a lot of armed bodyguard contracts too, and bodyguards don't wear uniforms. Also, becuase I owned the company, I was expected to be available 24 hours for emergency relief of one of my guys, or if there was assistance required, etc. So I was licenced to carry my handgun/s at all times. And obviously I would not be wearing an uniform. Hence "concealed". Here's a scan of my licence. Now you have just made yourself a fool! Take your blinkers off! You just got slapped! Image Unavailable, Please Login
And all my guns were always used within the guidelines of the law. To further the point - why do you have multiple Ferraris? Is it overkill to have more than one?
Never, but I always asked myself that question. The conclusion I always come to is that I would not hesitate, because obviously it's 'me or him'. If I wouldn't shoot him first, he would shoot me. So I think I would do it in a clear conscience. Here are some interesting tidbits in the regulations/what you were being taught/instructed: - only take your gun out if you are willing to use it. It should never be drawn otherwise. - always shoot to kill because by law, you have to terminate the threat to life as quickly as possible, with the smallest amount of shots. - always aim for the greatest body mass (torso), never for the limbs. Because you are supposed to shoot to kill, and also you want to minimise the threat of a granny. - so you should never take your gun out of the holster unless you are ready to kill. - It's illegal to use the gun as a warning device, so it's illegal to shoot warning shots, so it's illegal to take it out of the holster if you do not have the intent to kill (in order to stop the threat to life) That's the law/regulations that you are being taught during training.
