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  1. Irishman

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    #1 Irishman, Nov 22, 2009
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    Does anyone know a source for a good extraction / insertion tool kit for amp/cannon style connectors? Or do stores like Pep Boys etc carry them?

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    #2 DGS, Nov 22, 2009
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    Radio Shack has a couple of round pin extraction tools, for certain sized pins:
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062447 For pins like those used in the power connectors for hard disks (also usable for some round connectors in the cars).
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102600 For D-sub connectors (like the old serial port connectors).
    You should be able to get those locally.

    Otherwise, you can look into an electronics supply house (local or via internet) for cannon connectors and the related tool sets.

    But, in general, you need to be able to get to the back of the connector, as well. In the cable you show, it looks like the wires are all wrapped up in the insulation, so getting the pin free of the shell isn't going to accomplish all that much by itself, unless you can get the cover off the back of the connector.

    (Is that aftermarket? Most of the factory connectors in my 328 are either slot and fork "harmonica" connectors (like on the relay board), or 6.3mm blade multi-connectors.)
     
  3. Irishman

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    #3 Irishman, Nov 22, 2009
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    Although the connector is fairly long the wires are free at the back. Using a very small punch I was able to drive them out. Would really prefer to have the proper extraction and insertion tools.

    It's actually not related to my 308. It's the wiring harness for the ignition advance plate for my Harley. The Harley forums just don't match up to f-chat :):).

    It's a sad tale. My poor old Softail had some metal on metal noise. Good thing I was right at home.

    Turned out a tappet roller seized up and starting riding the camshaft lobe hard. It also then somehow managed to crack the tappet housing.

    Hmmm... I'm sure somebody is saying get this crap out of f-chat but this might be helping me out just looking at it in pictures. I have been trying to formulate a theory about what happened. Now I'm thinking the tappet housing cracked and came away which then gave the tappet roller a chance to turn and start flat spotting on the cam.
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  4. Rifledriver

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    #4 Rifledriver, Nov 22, 2009
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    I am going with theory "B". The lifter turned first. Then it ate a roller. Haven't done any hot rod Harley stuff in a couple of decades but I suspect there are some bullet proof aftermarket parts out there to solve the problem.

    Sorry for the problem. When a roller turns sideways it never turns out well.


    As for your connectors. Find a good electronics supply in your area. A good one like all the hard core electronic geeks go to. They will have a pretty good selection of pin removal tools.
     
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    #5 enginefxr, Nov 22, 2009
    I agree...lifter turned. You can see the horizontal marks across the tappet roller. You're lucky the axle and needle bearings didn't come out- that would have really f-ed up your day.
     
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  8. Irishman

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    #8 Irishman, Nov 23, 2009
    An aviator who works with me sent me to
    http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/el/pinsockettools.html
    which I am trying. I posted because the initial hits I found for extraction and insertion tools or tool kits were big $$$. And, today I learned how I most likely trashed the lock by forcing things out. The harness itself was really in bad shape due to heat/age so I needed to replace it anyway.

    Wow, happy to have get advice from some of the heavy hitters like Rifledriver and Norwood. James, I met you briefly one winter a few years ago. Since my brother works for the airline I non-reved to look at a carb 308 that an f-chatter dumped at Sewell Pontiac near Love field. It was a nice car in many ways but you (and Mike) steered me away which I eventually came to understand why. I regret to admit I still have much to learn :):).
     
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    #9 Irishman, Jan 24, 2010
    Okay, I just can't seem to reach the end of this tappet issue. I appreciate the help with the connector tool -- it worked out great.

    No problem finding the parts. H-D has everything I need. Not bad for a twenty-year old vehicle.

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    Here is the completed job.

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    The interesting part was the what broke too while trying to fix the tappet guide. Bike starts and runs - good. A little "whoop whoop" on the front exhaust so I figure I fudged the adjustable pushrods. Fixed that and now sounds fine. Then today go to set the timing and bike runs like crap. Backfiring and what not. So I pull the plugs. They look okay but fouled so I clean them.

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    Try again. Still running like crap on the front. Backfires. Occasional flame. WTF??? Did I hold the choke out too long? Timing? Check the front plug again.

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    Ah ha!. Broken insulator. Hold it upright and it's fine. Turn it upside down and gap can close!. I showed it to the one guy working this afternoon at the dealer where I got replacement plugs. He laughed right away. This scenario was one they used on him during factory technician training in Milwaukee. He said it drives many mechanics crazy.

    New plugs and I am off in the wind!
     
  10. Rifledriver

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    #10 Rifledriver, Jan 24, 2010

    What brand of plugs are they using? If it is a question in school they see it from time to time. If they used a quality plug maybe they wouldn't have to worry about diagnosing it.
     

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