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46% clutch wear at 8000 miles?

Discussion in '360/430' started by Loz997S, Jan 25, 2010.

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  1. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I am extremely familiar with the data you speak of. And there are several pages more if you access the the instrument panel histogram. With the exception of the overheat time it will not lead to any educated conclusions about clutch wear.

    On the 355 overheat time was recorded in seconds and it was unusual for it to not have a high number. Starting with 360 it started to be recorded in blocks of minutes. You need to be roasting the clutch for over a sixty second period for it to be recorded in memory. Absolutely usless. I have seen clutches burned to a crisp have zero minutes overheat time.
     
  2. Loz997S

    Loz997S Formula Junior

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    Thanks all. Dealer is not budging, there are other cars out there so I'll keep looking.
     
  3. MamoVaka

    MamoVaka Formula 3

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    Rifledriver,

    can you take a moment please and let us know your opinion on the clutch wear?

    I say this because both my gransport and modena are F1, my gransport has 22k miles and shows no sign of wear or slippage (hasnt fallen out of a gear yet)

    the modena is 13k miles and also is pretty solid, hasn't fallen out of a gear.

    any opinion on what you think the actual mileage these clutches are expected to last is?
     
  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    How big is a ball of string? I have clients that cannot go more than 10,000 miles on a clutch. I have worn out a number of cars that went to their grave with the original clutch still in it. I have a client with a 360F1 who commutes in it, lives in the hills and got 55,000 on his first clutch, was on the way to getting about 75,000 on his second when an oil seal failed and soaked it.


    To blame poor clutch life on the computer is like blaming your home computer computer for you check book being out of balance.

    GIGO.
     
  5. MamoVaka

    MamoVaka Formula 3

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    Haha,

    thanks Rifledriver.. BTW I consider Rifledrifer's info to be as good as gospel when discussing these cars.. thanks for your insight.
     
  6. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

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    No big deal surely? Nothing wrong with a bit of spirited driving in a Ferrari (if that's the cause)!

    Jump in I say!
     
  7. MNJason

    MNJason Rookie

    Sep 18, 2007
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    Has anyone answered the OPs question about cost of replacement? Id like to know as well. My local Fcar dealership said $5k replacement cost at the dealer.
     
  8. elmani

    elmani Formula Junior

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    my cost was 3.5k$ at specialist, ... 5.5k$ estimate at the dealer
     
  9. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I can never understand why people ONLY look at clutch wear to make an assumption of some kind of "abuse" of the car.

    Look at the brake wear ALSO. If the brakes seem overly worn for it's mileage or were replaced at an early stage, then there's a good chance the clutch (and car) was abused through hard driving.

    If the brakes seem normal or better than normal, it's a pretty good guess the clutch was worn in stop and go traffic or perhaps a difficult parking situation requiring a lot of backing up.

    If you drive your F430 cross country, expect the clutch to be almost new. If you drive it everyday in stop and go traffic, expect it to wear more quickly.

    AND, that's the same if it's an F1 or manual. Physics are physics.
     

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