Test for NNO | FerrariChat

Test for NNO

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Napolis, Feb 4, 2010.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  2. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2002
    Messages:
    40,647
    Location:
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    Can you give me another hint? :)

    If I had to guess, I'd say 135441, but that doesn't really make sense to me.
     
  3. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2003
    Messages:
    52,414
    Location:
    SFPD
    Full Name:
    Dirty Harry
    Rebody?
     
  4. robert_c

    robert_c F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,417
    Location:
    SoCal
    Full Name:
    Robert C
    Is that in a wind tunnel before you slightly modified it?
     
  5. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    Enzo 135441 in the PF wind tunnel to get a baseline for our engineering before we designed
    and turned her into P 4/5.

    That body is now on the MM Enzo.
     
  6. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2002
    Messages:
    40,647
    Location:
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    :)
     
  7. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    99,790
    Jim, did you take delivery of the Enzo prior to it getting "P4/5"ed?
     
  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    Yes. I bought it new in the US and sent it over to PF.
     
  9. Bill S

    Bill S Formula 3

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,995
  10. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    99,790
    WTF, is pic #3 the elusive front wheel drive Enzo? :)
     
  11. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    I do.
     
  12. Mowgli

    Mowgli Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    435
    Location:
    Bristol, CT
    Exactly what stood out to me.
     
  13. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    We toyed with making P 4/5 FWD but decided against it. ;)

    The wind tunnel taught us a lot of things about the Enzo and later P 4/5.

    If we get P 4/5 Competizione going with her stiffer springs and racing suspension we'll be able to use much more of the downforce her shape can produce.

    P 4/5's Enzo suspension couldn't take all her body could generate and we actually had to crank some out.

    We were quite successful in reducing under hood heat, lowering running temperature, getting more air into the engine, and getting more air flow through the brakes.
     
  14. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    Those were duct/brake cooling tests which didn't require having the rolling road turn the rear wheels.

    When the wind tunnel is fired up you wouldn't want to be standing in there.

    That particular wind tunnel is one of the highest speed full scale wind tunnels existent.
     
  15. Mowgli

    Mowgli Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    435
    Location:
    Bristol, CT
    That makes sense. Thank you for clearing that up.
     
  16. Alan Guerzoni

    Alan Guerzoni Karting

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2006
    Messages:
    223
    Location:
    Italy
    Full Name:
    Alan Guerzoni
    Jim,

    What's about the old Enzo bodywork panels? they remained to PF or are placed in your beautiful garage?

    Nice to see images of the p4/5 before the transformation.

    Alan
     
  17. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    They were bought to be used to repair a damaged Enzo.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228825
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2010
  18. frefan

    frefan F1 Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2004
    Messages:
    7,370
    Richard. Nice to see the parts go to a good charity ;) :D:D:D
     
  19. rossocorsa13

    rossocorsa13 F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,557
    Location:
    Nashville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    M
    Jim, any numbers for the downforce, as in the amount gained over the Enzo? Interesting that you guys had to crank back a bit. Would be great to see what she could do with a proper suspension...

    And if you can't give legitimate figures because of legal issues, cool.

    Thanks.

    M
     
  20. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    We were able to get much better engine cooling and brake cooling, more balanced downforce and much more downforce as a result of our efforts.
     
  21. 90koenigTR

    90koenigTR Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2004
    Messages:
    439
    Location:
    Northern California
    Full Name:
    I. P. Freely
    That last image of your car in front of the wind tunnel with a gang of onlookers is iconic. Looks like a special moment in history
     
  22. modena1_2003

    modena1_2003 F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2005
    Messages:
    3,954
    Full Name:
    Jon
    The first photo of this thread gave it away to me as far as the particular car in question. I didn't know the SN but I had higher hopes for Mr. C.M. :)

    Any plans to have P4/5 on Top Gear, Mr. Jim?



    _J


    P.S.

    Please for the Love of God put this car on TV!!! If you can't make it to Greenwich, it goes on TV. End of story.
     
  23. Ruddmeister

    Ruddmeister Karting

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2008
    Messages:
    53
    Jezza is way too busy blowing up caravans ;)
     
  24. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2006
    Messages:
    15,130
    Location:
    Deep South
    Full Name:
    PDG
    Very cool little thread here...


    PDG
     

Share This Page