Gallardo and clutches

Sometimes they wear out, sometimes they go 50,000 miles, why does it matter? You drive it until you need a new clutch, if your driving style wears it out before someone else's, then you're going to spend more per mile than them.

 

Slipping is what kills them, so lots of low speed stop/go traffic will ruin it quicker.

I would venture to guess that the average Lamborghini is driven quite different than your average 911 turbo.

 

First, nobody gets 50K miles on a G clutch. That is BS. Hardly any cars have 50K miles on them anyway, so who would actually know this as a fact? Next, you can not extrapolate clutch wear, as wear is not linear

The 04 and early cars had defective clutches. Most were replaced under secret warranty. The clutches got better with new versions. You can expect 20K miles on the newest "F" clutch.

 

also if you have a egear gallardo make sure you have the latest software upgrade

 

Yes and no with your comment...it is correct that the early cars not only had first version softwares that were inferior but ALSO the mechanical clutch product itslef was inferior for the car. It is also correct that quite a few did have the product "replaced" under cloak and dagger as they were brought into authorized service centers...best estimates from multiple source suggest this occurred on cars with the vin # below 400 on the last three in early 2004 cars.

Clutch life, while it is somewhat predictable, is also dependant on the type of driver, the operation of the car as well as the temprature and THE length of each drive operation and the gears used.

A little side note that always kills me on the discussion of clutches...all are so worried about the life of the clutch when they purchase...yet must never EVEN get close to the miles on the car they have to be alarmed about it...just in my experiance. Once the USA driver gets over this stupi notion of these super cars only be of value with less than 5000 miles on the clo9ck...we will see a whole new attidude on the pleasure and joy of having these great cars and the fun they can bring you on a EVREYDAY to DAY use of this machine, which after all is said and done..IS STILL A CAR!!


and out of storage, transport trucks and never allowed to reach operating tempruature with short drive and continous gear shifting is NOT going to wear as well or as long as a clutch that consitently reachs operating temp and has more or less operated for longer periods of times in its top gears for sustained periods of time..i.e. long drives-hiway etc etc. Some of the most harsh damage is caused during periods of non operating tempratures.

The newer E-Gear clutches have since had re-maping that causes for the throw out bearing to dis-engage sooner, i.e. coming to stop lights, sitting at a dead stop as well as engage faster upin acceleration. This as well allows for better wear on the clutch mechanisims.

IMO, you can guage clutch wear as 60% product and software with the remaing 40% on driver habit and operating conditions. I dont know what the max wear under best conditions should be, but I can verify clutch wear in access of 20,000 miles in E-Gear cars operated at peak performace as well as clutches at 5,000 miles with what I would call an in-experianced improper operator.

From my experiance the most harmful item to clutch life is the operation of the gearbox agressively prior to correct operating temprature along with continued aggresive manipulation of the gears in the wrong RPM range.

I also am totaly convinced that an E-Gear clutch, regardless of its porper use or not maintains a life of approx 20% less than a standard manual gear box, if not more. It is also not know to many that for the most part the e-gear system is manufactured for use by Lamborghini from the same manufacture that provides the F-1 system for Ferrari.

My own personel experiance, in not one but THREE (all owned by me from new 2001 Diablo, 2004 Murcie, 2007 LP640) manual gear box cars from Lamborghini have shown well over 30,000 miles on the orginal clutch and still in place, with one car approaching 36,000 miles. I currently am approaching 7,000 miles on my LP670-4SV with manual clutch. I have had three e-gear cars that I maintained for a period of time... (2004 gallardo and 2006 SE Gallardo 2007 LP640)...2004 over 9,000 miles and the SE 12,000 miles with no issues and the 2007 LP640 with a replace clutch at 19,000 miles.

I now have a 2010 LP670-4SV E-gear car. I hope to enjoy its performace and orginal factory clutch to the 25,000 plus area, we will see. I can say the difference in the clutch operation is noticable and extremely efficent and crisp in the 2010 compared to earlier year Murcie e-gear cars I have operated.

 

Roy has probably been typing since last Thursday to get that done. LOL

 

My opinion, that agrees with Roy is if you use the car for short trips with a lot of start and stops you will get short life from the clutch miles wise.
Think about it this way. I start the car and engage the clutch, drive 10 miles in stop and go traffic and return home.
Or I start car engage the clutch and drive 100 miles in moving traffic and return home.
Probably used less clutch life in the 100 miles than the 10 miles.

Russell

 

NO..Thursday is Tequila Thursdays..I waited till I woke up on Friday LOL

 

11K on my '06 6-speed clutch with no worries.

I agree that e-gear is harder on clutch. Has to be. Even in parking garages or the rare traffic, I am either fully engaged in first and idling at slow speed or in neutral. My clutch slips only once and that is to get rolling. e-gear slips more at low speeds as it does not know that you are intending to go slow in first gear.

NEVER use WOT without your foot completely off the clutch.

NEVER have a delta of more than 2K rpm between engine and trans speed to get rolling, unless you really have to drag race and then be warned, you are impacting clutch life, and not in a good way.

NEVER powershift - you are asking clutch slip to absorb max engine rpm to driveline and IMO it is not worth the extra speed unless you are really racing and then money really does not matter.

 

So even with all the improvements in clutch life, I take it that Launch Control will still do in a clutch after a few hits. Sure looks cool though and must be some ride.

 

I agree most people do not see much milage on a Lambo.

My two part question is

I heard Lambo has a new clutch and it is stronger. Is that true?

Also the new 560-4 Galardo egear automatically pops the throttle when it is shifing down. How much does this or these help in the real world?

I had a 2004 lambo Galardo and it had its clutch replaced at 4000 miles or so. it gave me no problem when I traded it in at 6300 miles for the 560-4.


Lee

 

All e-gear Lambo's have done throttle blip, it's not new to the 560, the purpose of the blip is to prevent needing to use the clutch; when power is cut, it allows the gears to unmesh, blip the throttle to rev-match for the lower gear, then you can re-engage and restore ignition. The '06 and on cars have a stronger clutch, many of the older ones do too under secret warranty.

 

How much is a clutch replacement? Is the job out of reach of the owner himself?

 

Not really an owner job, and my cars clutch was replaced right before I bought it 7K