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Among other things. Sodi also had the best hospitality going on at SuperNats last November! Thanks for the access "fre"!

 

The TDF blue Enzo with black calipers and black trim has been seen twice:
first on 16/04/2004 for inauguration of the Ferrari Store in Rome and a second time at Vallelunga on 19-09-2004. The car has monaco plates but I don't know the number.

 

I red that the owner of the blue of Rome has 3 Enzo's.
The father owns a yellow one, one son the blue and the other son a black one with yellow steering wheel that lives in Monaco. If I remember the black's plate is F338.
It's full of pictures on the net of the black one.

On supercarfrance there are pictures of a yellow one in Monaco with yellow steering wheel, maybe that's theirs one

 

It is ! Exactly same interior as the black one. Plus, the owner of the black has been seen driving the yellow one.

http://www.supercarfrance.com/MC128/Part-2/17-Ferrari_Enzo.JPG
http://www.supercarfrance.com/MC128/Part-2/16-Ferrari_Enzo.JPG

Those pics are 2007 when the car made a come back in Monaco after few years. It was seen later with the plate on but since it disappears again.

They also have a red one on family. Plate 1063 not seen from a while.

http://www.supercarfrance.com/MC67/Part-1/07.jpg
http://www.supercarfrance.com/MC67/Part-1/08.jpg

The only thing we missed on the "possible" blue monegasque enzo, is a rear picture with the license plate.

BTW, Schumacher and Todt scuderia red enzo are differents.

 

I know that the owner is from Rome, but I don't know the name.
Correct?

 

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Perhaps you missed it in the wording of my earlier post, but the second photo with black calipers was most definitely taken well after the first photo with the yellow ones was posted on the 'net. This is confirmed by the EXIF details embeded within the photo. So there should be no doubts as to which came first in this instance and it should offer a slight doubt that they are indeed the same cars.

Here's one more image - calipers can't be seen for our benefit, but it is again lacking the front plate and also note the lack of stickers on the windshield that appear in earlier and later photos. Maybe someone recognizes this car as something other than 128788?

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I didn't really check them out this last year because of the not so prime location, but in 2008 I watched most of the Supernats from atop the semi truck

 

Erik is right IMO.

Interiors are differents.

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/4049/5octobre194hr.jpg (2005)

 

Here's the larger version of my shot since FChat reduced it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/temp/i3601x13mr.jpg

Incidentally the date printed on that photo matches the EXIF details of it too (as it should).

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Exactely, that's what I meant with 'timeline'...

 

Compared to the swiss TdF Enzo this one has black seatbelts and a standard ceiling...
Furthermore there are also confirmed infos, that a blue Enzo was seen during the 2006 Monaco GP!

 

Which one is this on UK plates from Last January in the UK?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32495584@N04/sets/72157612098278997/

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Hi, Manuma. How are you? I hope all is well. The plates on the black Enzo are F339, and it's serial number 134287.

The interior of this picture looks like it could be the same as the interior of this picture - if the window has any kind of tint on it or if the image was shot with a polarizer or if there's a lack of light, that could very well be Cuoio in the first picture. Also, I know of a few Enzos that were delivered with a spare set of seats - some in a completely different color.

The red belts could've been put in later on - or earlier on. What do you mean by standard ceiling?

That's 136085 after it was repainted from Matte Titanio to Blu Tour de France.

At this point, I'm just providing what-ifs for some of these pictures. I don't have all of the facts; but the fact remains that all of the facts are unfortunately not present. I have image files on my computer with weird EXIF dates, so I don't completely trust those - which again, just leads to my speculation/rationalization. But without hard facts, it's hard to accurately compile figures such as the number of Enzos with colored calipers.

And just for the record, you guys are just as crazy as I am, with all of your time-stamped images and EXIF dates and subtle detail differences, etc. With my sincerest apologies to Jeffrey for Amtraking his thread, this has been a lot of fun.

 

This enzo has a custom made tan leather 'ceiling', which is rare...
To turn the tables, what is your oldest confirmed pic of the swiss TdF Enzo?
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Another point that may have been lost is that sticker at the top of the windsheild in the area you have circled. It's not on this 'other' car.

I will give you that EXIF is not 100%. If someone never set the date in their camera they are worthless.

However, there are three photos of the Blue Enzo with the black calipers from the same location. Two were taken with a Nikon E3100 and one taken with some type of Sony Cybershot, but all of them have the same "Date Picture Taken: 4-16-2004". It would be hard to believe that two cameras would be outputting the same inaccurate date.

I asked over on SC.net where I found the two E3100 shots originally if anyone knows who is resposible for them and if they have any others to share. I am sure they were posted on the same day the car was spotted, but it is nearly impossible to search their archive for anything useful. We'll see if that inquiry proves successful.

Here's the third photo. Sort of a close-up the second one I shared offering little if anything extra in the way of help to our discussion.

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One thing for sure, the TDF Enzo is gorgeous !

 

Leaving Cars & Coffee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7dWargfESs

 

The swiss TDF was in Paris last year. There are couples of pictures around.

 

Some previous comments in the thread before we started rambling on about brake caliper colors suggested adding the red line around the outside to mimic the FXX wheels, and also finishing the center lock nut in black. This car has the center nut done in red, so I guess it would be possible. Maybe they powder coated it, but I think the finish would still be difficult to keep fresh while tightening the nut.

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May I ask where this picture was taken..?

Gr. Martin

 

Verdi, an independent Ferrari specialist in Middlesex.

www.verdi-ferrari.com

 

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Bjoern, do you know the serial number of this car?