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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    No penalties but wow.

    Better now than during the race though, but certainly its a huge blow to get this early on.


    ....During testing, didn't alonso's car break down once?
     
  2. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Erring on the side of caution, or is there a bigger concern, I'd like to think its the former as there is no penalty.
     
  3. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Nope. I don't recall any of the Scuderia's engines breaking down. I know they purposely let the car run dry, just to see how many laps it could squeeze on fumes, before towing it back to the pits.

    Maybe it's overheating? Look at the sides of the car, near the exhaust outlets. Notice there's some cuttings in the bodywork, something i didn't see during testing.
     
  4. Isobel

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    How can there be no penalties ? Mind you, I'm not complaining ;), but doesn't this amount to having 'qualifier' specials ? l
     
  5. barbazza

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    8 engines allowed for the entire season. Only when all 8 are gone do they get penalties. Hopefully that won't be by Malaysia...
     
  6. jknight

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    guess you don't start from pit lane or take a grid penalty any more this year? seven to go is not really the way to start the season...

    Carol
     
  7. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    Does that mean all of the teams are allowed to switch engines after qualifying, as long as they stay within the eight per year ? Wow. ;o
     
  8. barbazza

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    IIRC that's what Vettel was doing last year at the end. He managed to get to the end of the season without penalty.

    Or I could be screwing up the rule completely. My buzz isn't comletely gone yet :)

    Anyone else know if that's definitely the rule?
     
  9. beast

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    That is what a lot of teams were doing last year. Allowed them to have a fresh or fresher engine for the race. Then as the engine got more miles it was used for practice and qualifying.
     
  10. vinuneuro

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    #11 vinuneuro, Mar 14, 2010
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    Wondering the same thing here. Vettel didn't incur penalties at the end of the season because he used the same engine for the race as in qualifying.

    Up till last season iirc, engine change post qualifying= start from pitlane. I remember Toyota doing it with Glock a few times.
     
  11. sindo308qv

    sindo308qv F1 Rookie

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    Hey, if we're going to have problems let's shake them out early rather than later in the season.
     
  12. open roads

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    So engine management looms large early. In the past engines were to last two races on average. Hmmm.
     
  13. Whisky

    Whisky Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Regardless of how many miles you put on an engine in off-season testing or testing on a test bed in the lab, nothing is like race conditions.
    Maybe they had some test pieces in, found out they didn't work as designed, and reverted back to something else?
     
  14. Alex1015

    Alex1015 Formula Junior

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    Not too big a worry, these two are now put on the shelves and used on Fridays. There's no major penalty if they let go on a Friday aside from some lost running time and it preserves what other engines are available.
     
  15. Tifoso1

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    Is that the loophole in the engine regulation which teams can exploid ? Great info !! I guess we may see a few engines letting go on Friday practice this season then from all teams then.
     
  16. ricksb

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    On Speed, the explanation was that they found some sand in the air filter and wanted to go on the side of caution to avoid an engine blow-up.
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    #18 VIZSLA, Mar 14, 2010
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    One report in Manipe F1 has Renault lobbying for the right to modify their engines due to reliability issues already.
     
  18. SOFTWAREGUY

    SOFTWAREGUY Karting

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    If I understand correctly, #1 engine can be reused in any later race. Can anyone confirm?
     
  19. Tifoso1

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    See the quote below.

     

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