599 GTO

Looks like a lot of borrowed ideas from Mr. Mobiel (I think that's his name...?) who frequents this forum.

It's a fantastic idea.

But wrong forum.

 

Photoshopped by a speculator. California headlights (IIRC this is pretty expensive, even for a manufacturer as the car will have to be rehomologated?).

I quite like it though, but I prefer something 599xx inspired

 

Mods please move.

 

Eh...

 

Wrong.

 

Performance alone does not make a supercar.

Ferrari has only had four. The GTO ("288"), F40, F50 and Enzo Ferrari....

 

Steve- There is a mild resemblance between a 288 GTO and a 308, but that is about it.

A souped up 599 does not qualify as a Ferrari supercar, all of which have been limited production, bespoke cars with unique drivetrains and coach work. The reason for the 288 GTO's resemblance to the 308 was because it was originally intended to be a pro rally car, and those were supposed to resemble manufacturers' street cars.

There is a huge thread on the 599 GTO, if you want the latest information on the car.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

I think if you take a look at the thread Taz pointed out you will notice people, who are buyers, have been given private presentations and have commented that it looks like a very aggressive 599 GTB... so those people do have a pretty good idea of what it will look like. In addition those individuals have pretty much come to agreement on specs as well...

Here is a link to aforementioned thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261576&page=41

 

In this Case, The Scuderia and16 m consecutively would also deserve to Be discussed in The super Car Section...

 

Its definately going to get interesting. Lets not forget that we are talking about a badged GTO. I don't think Ferrari would build such a car that they didn't believe will live up to the name. Yes, it is limited but different than the others. Only 100 coming to the USA and a few more to Canada. The rest will have european specs. The GTO may seem like a fancy scuderia, 16M. But its going to be a street 599xx. Don't underestimate whats going to be under the skin. This car is going to be an incredible ride and be extremely rare in the future.

 

The 599 GTO is indeed more than a Scuderia or a 16M and will be a new experience compared to the GTB or HGTE for that matter.

I'm certainly looking forward to receiving mine soon

 

Hint: 599 GTO.

 

+1...and more.

From everything I've been told and the pics of the car I've seen, its a very, very aggressive 599, indeed, a cross between 599 HGTE and 599 xx though closer to the xx than HGTE.

The motor is a very slightly de-tuned 599xx engine--mostly powered down from 720 hp to 670+ due to catalytic restriction and a very minor electronic change to preserve it from needing constant work. The gearing will be shorter than HGTE and transmission faster. Its brakes are 2nd gen CC--much better. And the suspension and overall aero package will be significantly better.

To that add, it'll be a limited edition at 599 copies worldwide.

Btw: for the record, it'll be faster on the track, at the Ring or in a straight line than any so-called "super Ferrari", not that this fact by itself actually means anything because it doesn't--different era's, different technology.

However, doubters beware--the 599 gto is a much different car than standard 599 and and just a "scud" version (though I love the scud versions of the 430). Its being described by factory guys as the "tour de force" 12 cyl road/track car.

And who knows--it might just be the last big, performance 12 Ferrari builds.

If you don't have one already booked, it'll be your loss--but since its already too late to get in line, I'd suggest spilled milk is about all you can cry.

 

I do not have one booked Paul, but if you are ever feeling bored with your edition, you feel free to PM me and I will be more than happy to drive yours! I am excited for you, expecting to see many pictures when yours arrives!

 

i dont see why its anything more than a 599 'scud'. theyve taken technology from the track and applied it to a road car, again. im struggling to see whats so radically different.

 

As noted, the factory tech/presentation team apparently disagrees with this "only a scud view". Guess we'll all just have to wait for the finished product. Btw: finished product is a loose term as it seems car is still under heavy development/testing with additional tweeks and changes expected, like most models, as production ramps up and cars are delivered to customers.

 

But they would say that as they're marketing their new product to you. I sat at the presentation and didnt identify anything which makes this car beyond a 599 scud. I accept they've thrown more technology at it, but isnt that just progress?

The OP inadvertently raises an interesting point. Although fchat clubs the 288GTO, F40, F50, Enzo together isnt the actually family tree inclusive of both GTOs? Therefore this being the next GTO is it worthy to be placed in the Supercars section or to be classed as a Ferrari supercar just as the other GTOs are? Is it worthy of the badge its predecessors held or is its name just a marketing ploy to get people to buy in to it?

 

So we disagree--but so as not to flog this dead horse, assume "enough" in your opinion would likely require homologated status.

To that point, can anyone that actually knows explain the recent change for next year to combine various GT classes? I'm no expert and have only seen a brief note but sounded like will be lumping the bigger block GTs together with the smaller sports cars--corvettes/astons etc now directly against smaller ferrari's, mazda's and porsches etc?

Is this true?

And, if so, doesn't it present an opportunity for the 599 to join fray? Seemed logical option as it should fit snugly into the space prieviously held by 550's for a few until these models couldn't keep up with vetts/aston etc power/handling increases...

Any thoughts by those that know the real deal on the class rules and possible changes?

 

I have my own opinion but was actually asking the question. I think homologation would have made the car more authentic. Does it really bother me? Probably not as Im not that much of a purist.

Whats your view on how it fairs with the previous GTOs? Do you think it should be classed as a Ferrari supercar? If not, why not? The OP in his limited knowledge of the car thought it should be for obvious reasons.

Take away the 3 magic letters and you have a 599 scud.

 

I don't think putting "GTO" on it necessarily makes it a supercar. I've seen photos of Fieros with Ferrari logos on them.

Now the replicar isn't a Ferrari at all. But isn't it up to the public to say what a supercar is?

I have no doubt that the car will be fantastic. Perhaps a pitty that the fabled GTO name is used, maybe not. Time will tell. For now I see it as a marketing move. Sales are supposed to be slow in case you haven't heard.

More's the pitty if it is just marketing. But they'll find a new name for the next supercar, and this will stand in fairly nicely till then I suspect.

PS My offer of beer bets (in Oct.) on there not being a GTO are off. LOL