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  1. boxerman

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    Recent article in Octane on the Dino 206 competizione and stratos protoyypes. Can't say I agree with the judge's conclusions. The Stratos while modern took us to the countach which led nowhere, whereas the dino shape is still in the 430 DNA today. Anyway congrats to napolis for refurbishing while preserving the car, having a piece of history as opposed to a "faberge egg" . The difference between a hoarder and a true connisuer collector.

    Out of curiosity was this car ever run in anger. Someone added the wings for a reason, although as the article shows the wind tunnel indicates with limited results. Anyway really nice to see these cars without being ruined come back to life, instead of just being pictures in a book.


    To digress
    Niced thing about the world we live in today a stratos can be affordably enjoyed. There are some great replicas/recreations around. So if you like the shape and the art in motion of the thing and truly enjoy the drive as opposed to the status there is a stratos available. My 2cents for those who really enjoy the drive there are great gt40's stratoses and cobras out there without being billionaires. Those who drove and kept these cars in the 70's were entusuiasts the cars were worth little and had close to zero historic reverence, they were enjoyed just for what they were, and recreations do the same for entusiasts today.

    Glad to see the dino is what it is no matter the cost as opposed to the faberge egg.
     
  2. Beta Scorpion

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    As good as the Stratos design is, automobile design reached its asymptote with the Carabo, which came a few years before the Stratos.
     
  3. boxerman

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    Carabo based on a t33 too.
     
  4. bigodino

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    Can't agree on that. I see in the current Murcielago and even in the Gallardo the ancestry of the Countach. Even the Zonda and Veyron owe their overall shape to the Countach IMO.
     
  5. BigTex

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    The Dino was built as a design study on top of a racing chassis, a hillclimb car, IIRC.......maybe Mr. G will chime in ....so while it doesn't have a racing history since becoming it's current guise, it would have one from the original car..

    Good question!
     
  6. Napolis

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    #6 Napolis, Aug 25, 2008
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    Dino Competizione's motor ran at Le Mans in 66 but her chassis never raced. (034/10523)

    After Villa d'Este I drive her 800 miles on the Historic Targa Florio. She's back in Turin for a final check and soon will head back to the US.

    Her wings are original.
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  7. BigTex

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    Best to use the "odd" VIN for the NY License Plate, then!! :D :D

    I'm thinking I need to 'tag along' on one of those laps, Sir.......that certainly looks like a wonderful time.

    As you reminded me, life is short....
     
  8. Napolis

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    It is my friend.
     
  9. boxerman

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    Have fun then
     
  10. boxerman

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    Yet the link between the dino through to the 430 particularily in the greenhouse is more pronounced than in the cars you mention.

    Perhaps they meant angular wedgy look was to the eye more modern, or at least modern as interpreted in the 70's. I will say that the stratos was completly fresh and not derivative curves, that is if you forget the countach and carabo.

    But then the dino proves elegance never goes out of style, good ferraris particularily the mid engined ones had the look of a lady laying on her side, all hips and curves, I think that look has been in for 100.000 plus years and shows no sign of losing appeal.

    Love the spaceship look though, early countach pure art, stratos the same and a euro 308gt4 is close.
     
  11. Napolis

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  12. PaulK

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    Just look at that shape. Such curves. Que bella.
     
  13. richardowen

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    The Countach was produced from 1974 to 1989, and was sold in good quantity throughout. It also popularized the wedge shape, cab forward design, the Pirelli P7 and was Marcello Gandini's crowning achievement.

    Maybe later on the text the author explains himself better? Or is this just another piece full of platitudes?
     
  14. richardowen

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    Seconded.
     
  15. abstamaria

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    #15 abstamaria, Apr 1, 2010
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    I must disagree; I have a Stratos! In truth, however, I think the Stratos can be described as ferocious, purposeful, striking, but not "pretty" or "beautiful," as the Competizione and the 206/246 Dinos can be. The Stratos is an acquired taste, probably.

    Julian Thomson, the designer of the Lotus Elise (another acquired taste), took styling cues from earlier Loti, of course, but also the 246 Dino (he owned one then, probably still does). He wrote though that, in a small car intended to sell at the Elise's price, something as pretty as the Dino might end up being a hairdresser's car, the lines that worked so perfectly in the Dino - larger and addressing a premium market - working against it. So he sought to bring into the design something of the ferocity of the Stratos.

    It is quite strange that, in a YouTube clip discussed in the 206/246 board, a U.S. commentator picked the 5 ugliest cars at the show at the Quail Lodge last year. He selected 2 or 3 ghastly ones, but then ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6BycLhSjjw&NR=1

    The Competizione to me is quite beautiful, picking up some of the lines of the 206SP (my most wanted car), so that video is quite strange. A function of time and age, perhaps?

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    It is quite strange that, in a YouTube clip discussed in the 206/246 board, a U.S. commentator picked the 5 ugliest cars at the show at the Quail Lodge last year. He selected 2 or 3 ghastly ones, but then ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6BycLhSjjw&NR=1

    Andy[/QUOTE]

    That guy is a complete and utter jackass who knows nothing of any merit or value when it comes to automobiles.

    Best,
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    That guy looks and sounds like he'd be more suited to deliver commentary on a pink rally than be anywhere near a historic motorcar. What did that programme nett on advertising?
     
  18. abstamaria

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    The site probably generated a great number of hits because of those comments. Probably intentionaliy controversial. I like the F40 as well, although, like the Stratos, "beautiful" and "pretty" would probably not be used to describe it.

    What issue Octane, Sean (Boxerman)? I seem to have missed the article.

    By the way, the Stratos replicas unfortunately rarely have the Ferrari V6 engine and gearbox, or the correct suspension, so may not deliver the same driving experience. The D-Type (Lynx and Proteus) and GT40 (Superformance) seem very close to the originals, however.

    Andy
     
  19. VIZSLA

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    Please don't make me choose between two such fantastic designs.
    The Stratos has the advantage of being a car that I could, at least conceivably, own;)
     
  20. abstamaria

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    #20 abstamaria, Apr 3, 2010
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    Billy Strayhorn, written when he was in high school.

    That line could have easily been about the Dino (or the Stratos), VIZSLA.
     
  21. Napolis

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    I like the Stratos very much. I'd love to own "Safari". Chris's car was breath taking and the Color was Wild. I also like Villa d'Este and it's Judges. They are real Car Guys. They liked Dino giving her a Special Mention and choosing Chris's car was like choosing Per Se over Jean George. Both are pretty Cool.

    Dino has over 2K miles on her now including the Historic Targa Florio and she's out and about now that the winter salt is washed away.

    As for LA Times Dan, some people are their own punishment.
     
  22. michael bayer

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    Boxerman/Beta If beauty is as beauty does, the Stratos wins hands down. It had an amazing race record, and it would be hard to find any Ferrari powered car that so often won races over so a large span of years M
     
  23. abstamaria

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    I looked it up, studied the graphs and still don't understand what it means. I assume, in the context in which used, the word means the point when a change (or a trend) commenced? Oh well.
     
  24. Napolis

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    The transition from curve to wedge shape cars.
     
  25. abstamaria

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    Ah, thank you, Jim. It is incredible that you have the Competizione, very well known to enthusiasts even here in the tropics.

    Andy
     

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