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Ferraris en Venezuela - Branko remembered July 2, 2011

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  1. Mark Ketcham

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    #326 Mark Ketcham, Mar 17, 2010
    Gents,

    Okay, take III on the racing history of 500 TR #0618 in S. America (Thanks for the help!):

    • 1957 Venzuelan GP Caracas, 2nd Class (S2.0)/8th OA, Piero Drogo/Julio Pola #38 ( 3 Nov.)
    • 1958 Subida de la Montaña (Hillclimb), Mare Pedro Garcia, 1st Class/3rd OA, Julio Pola #? (April)
    • 1958 El Limon (Venezuela), 2nd OA, Julio Pola #117 (June)
    • 1958 Ciudad de Valencia, 1st OA, Julio Pola # 117
    • 1958 Trinidad (Venezuela), Julio Pola ??
    • 1958 Sold to Jose Miguel Galia, Caracas, VEN
    • 1959 Ciudad Ojeda (Venezuela), 3rd OA, Jose Miguel Galia #16
    • 1959 La Trinidad, Caracas, 5th OA, José Miguel Galia # 16
    • 1960 Cumbres de Curumo (Venezuela), 2nd OA, G. Megal (Alias?) #166 (Sept.)
    Car now painted red for the 1960 Cumbres de Curumo event.
    • Sold to Chinetti's NART in the USA c. 1962.

    Are they any additional dates, class finishes, or race numbers that can be added? Not to mention corrections or additions?

    Who was the last Venezuelan owner before 0618 left S. America for Chinetti in the USA?

    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  2. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

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    #327 ferraripete, Mar 17, 2010
    this car has me curious as it may have passed through my uncle bobby's hands at one point in carracas. he told me of a 4 cyl tr that he had that he said was a real screamer. if i am not mistaken, he may have painted some crazy graphics and a big vz flag on the car at some point. he mentioned galia...branko are you able to add to this?

    pcb
     
  3. elmotorizado

    elmotorizado Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2009
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    #328 elmotorizado, Mar 18, 2010
    Hi Pete, sorry dont have anything to add about that car, if something pops up will let you know.
    branko
     
  4. elmotorizado

    elmotorizado Formula Junior

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    #329 elmotorizado, Mar 19, 2010
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  5. maserich

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    #330 maserich, Mar 19, 2010
    Anybody have any more images of the Alfa 1900 Zagato in back of 0352MM? Or any of it's history in South America??
    Rich
     
  6. elmotorizado

    elmotorizado Formula Junior

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    #331 elmotorizado, Apr 5, 2010
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  7. Aardy

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    #332 Aardy, Apr 5, 2010
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    s/n 0125EL...
     
  8. elmotorizado

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    #333 elmotorizado, Apr 5, 2010
    Thanks Cyril, what else can we find about this car, it was in Venezuela for a period of time I was told.
    branko
    PS I see this serial is beeing discussed in the Vignale section too.
     
  9. Aardy

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    #334 Aardy, Apr 5, 2010
    I hope someone will confirm the s/n with the italian plates...
     
  10. Boudewijn

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    #335 Boudewijn, Apr 5, 2010
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    0125EL would be this one with a scoop on the hood, just like 0159EL (according to the Vignale bible). Ed Niles no doubt knows this car very well, may be he can confirm the Venezuela car is 0125EL.
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  11. Ed Niles

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    #336 Ed Niles, Apr 5, 2010
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  12. Aardy

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    #337 Aardy, Apr 6, 2010
    Hi Boudewijn,

    I would have said this one is s/n 0138AM.

    Look the pics of Ed Niles of s/n 0125EL : the car didn't have little scoop on the hood, like the Venezuelan's one...
     
  13. kare

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    #338 kare, Apr 6, 2010
    Far from sure, but I think it looks like Betz&Peters' place when the car was owned by Oleson. That would be mid-to-late 70's or early-to-mid 80's. Best wishes, Kare
     
  14. omd78

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    #339 omd78, Apr 6, 2010
    Any news about the whereabouts of this car today?

    Gr. Martin
     
  15. Boudewijn

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    #340 Boudewijn, Apr 6, 2010
    With it's present fantasy body I believe the owner to be resident in Luxembourg.
     
  16. Aardy

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    #341 Aardy, Apr 7, 2010
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    I'm still thinking the b/w picture above is 0138AM and not 0125EL and I have just found the same picture with the caption : "4.1 liter 340 America cabriolet" in the 1973 Merritt's book...

    Does anybody have pictures of 0138AM BEFORE the trims were removed to see if it had a scope on hood ??

    Thanks !
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  17. Boudewijn

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    #342 Boudewijn, Apr 8, 2010
    In the final 1979 edition the photo is still there with 340 America caption, but in the 1985 Ferrari Cariolets & Spiders book Thompson (co-writer of Merritt's book) changes the caption in it being a 212 Inter example.
     
  18. Aardy

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    #343 Aardy, Apr 8, 2010
    The caption in the Thompson's book says :

    "True Vignale cabriolets were constructed on the higher 212 Inter chassis, with minor variations in the grilles and other details"

    And this caption is aside two other pictures : 0255EL (a 212 Inter) and 0106E (a 212 Export) so still NOT convinced...
     
  19. Aardy

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    #344 Aardy, Apr 8, 2010
    0255EU...
     
  20. elmotorizado

    elmotorizado Formula Junior

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    #345 elmotorizado, Apr 9, 2010
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  21. elmotorizado

    elmotorizado Formula Junior

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    #346 elmotorizado, Apr 16, 2010
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  22. Aardy

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    #347 Aardy, Apr 16, 2010
    Could the Boano be 0529GT ?? Great pictures as usual !!
     
  23. elmotorizado

    elmotorizado Formula Junior

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    #348 elmotorizado, Apr 16, 2010
    Hi Cyril, I have no idea of those serials, got those pictures from an old shoe box filled with negatives that I have been scanning little by little.
    branko
     
  24. Aardy

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    #349 Aardy, Apr 16, 2010
    Never mind. Cool to see these fantastic pics !! Thanks again Branko !!
     
  25. jsalgatti

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    #350 jsalgatti, Apr 19, 2010
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    A little more than two years ago, Gilles, well known in this FC forum, posted some nice photos of a "Special Ellena" 250 GT PF at http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137702030&highlight=0687#post137702030 reproduced here and identified by Kare as s/n 0687.

    Carefully watching Alfredo Bruck's pictures, posted by Branko, seems to me that it could be the same car, taking in consideration its hood scoop and unusaul rear rounded tail fenders and stop lights.

    Would love to know your comments...
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