SWEPCO 210 80W 90 Gear Oil

Does anyone know where you can buy SWEPCO 210? I looked all over town for it but could not locate. Thanks

 

not sure whre you can buy it in so cal, but alot or almost all of the Porsche on line sites sell it. (Pelican, Zims, Paragon etc) some cheaert han otehs but typiclly $45-55 / jug

 

Thank you. I'll check those out.

 

Swepco 201, Paragon has it in different weights. i buy from them a few times a year.

note it 201 and not 210.

http://www.paragon-products.com/product_p/swepco-201.htm

 

After reading reviews here I bought it directly from Swepco - but I had to buy a case.

It may be great for Porsche, but my 308 isn't all too happy with it. No slipping or anything, but shifting from 1st to 2nd seems to be tougher than AGIP.

 

It used to be very commonly used in the Ferrari community. It is a high quality but very old school lubricant. It makes the transmissions shift awful and is more responsible for the reputation Ferraris have for being hard to shift cold than any other single reason. I cannot understand why, in the 21st Century with all the very advanced and quality lubricants we have anyone in their right mind would still use it.

 

OK. Any thoughts on the Redline 75w 90 NS? I don't know what kind of gear oil was in my 308 as this is the first time I have changed it. My car shifts perfectly in all gears, cold or hot, and I don't want to screw it up. The oil I took out had been in the car for around two years. It was very clean. I borascoped the transfer case and gear box and all appeared like new. Super clean, no sludge. I would like to keep it that way. Thanks guys for all the advice.

 

Thats what we use for 90% of the cars. I use Redline MTL in my own and a few customer cars.

If it had Swepco it is VERY blue.

 

Thanks Rifledriver. Redline it is. I can buy that here locally. In the gear oil service procedure on Birdman's site, it list Redline 75W 90 "NS". Is there a difference between that and "MTL"? Does the MTL have the friction additive? Thank you very much for your time.

 

The Porsche 911 guys with the 915 and earlier style transmissions swear by Swepco, and for the life of me I don't know why. I tried Redline NS at the suggestion of the consultants here on fchat, and I will never ever look back.

 

COOL! I feel much better now. Thanks. I was not looking forward to having to order the swepco, pay for shipping, and waiting for it to arrive. Thanks again!

 

75-90 is a GL5 lubricant, MTL is a GL4 and has no additive. 75-90 is primarily designed for use in hypoid differentials and works well in transmissions. MTL (Manual Transmission Lubricant) is primarily designed for use in transmissions and is useful in some but not all hypoid differentials. Since the 308/328/348/355 transmissions have no hypoid gears it works quite well in them. At the shop we try and keep it simple and to prevent the wrong stuff from being used we use the 75-90. It works in everything we service. In a few cars with shifting complaints we do put in the MTL including one 308 that now has nearly 140,000 miles.

 

Rifledriver. Can I use the straight 75W 90 Redline High Performance Gear Oil in my '79 GTS. The one without "NS" or "MTL" on the label? The straight 75W 90 says GL-5 and GL-6 on the label. Thanks.

 

because it works perfect in the 915. i used Swepco in one of the 308s, and it worked, but i did not like it. Ferraris get Redline 10-40 engine oil, and Redline gear oil. Early Urraco and Jalpa Lambos shift well with Swepco or Redline, with Redline still bieng the better of the two, and preferred for the later Jalpas wit ZF parts. my G50 87 Slopenose has Swepco in it, and i will admit i think Redline would be better.

however, NOTHING makes the 915 in my 85 Carrera shift as nice as Swepco 201. nothing, and this is my 3rd 915 trans 911.
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Exactly....it is still commonly used in the Porsche but I'm not sure why because it really does not help them either.....we don't use it in any Ferrari as it makes them seem like the synchro bands are worn out and only use it in Porsche when the client "adamantly requests". It works on the old style band synchronizer assembly ok. But the cone type as in the Ferrari and later Porsche....no sir it works miserably. The 210 is much better for the cone type synchros.

However, Mobil 1 Delvac or Redline MTL works fantastic to completely eliminate cold shifting issues with either but you won't find them on your local parts store shelf.

For the 915 trans, there is a better alternative than the 201 Swepco and again it is made by Redline.....Redline heavy duty shock proof gear oil. It works great and better than anything we have ever tried on 901/915/930/935/962 gear boxes....it does NOT work at all in conical type boxes like the G50 and later Porsche boxes or any of the 70's on Ferrari boxes. It works better than anything in 250/275/330 style boxes.

BTW Swepco 210 is red and looks and acts more like the MTL.